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Media Coverage of COVID -19

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BJames

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I've not looked at the stats yet, but are these (as is normally the case now) largely asymptomatic cases which have only been identified by increased testing?
To be honest, I'm not sure but testing is freely available now. I would be surprised if this wasn't the case. At least, according to the dashboard there is capacity for 349,159 tests per day, with around 186,500 being done daily at the moment (a huge disparity still).

Interesting article in The Telegraph, entitled
Europe is at last waking up to it’s lockdown folly

It’s behind a paywall, but I think this quote gives a flavour of the piece
Got quite excited reading that. Matt Hancock should take note, based on his comments from the other day about another national lockdown if things don't go quite so well.
 
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Got quite excited reading that. Matt Hancock should take note, based on his comments from the other day about another national lockdown if things don't go quite so well.
Think Sunak already knows it, however he needs to get a pair and speak up but probably protecting his position rather than doing what's right for the country.
 

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Think Sunak already knows it, however he needs to get a pair and speak up but probably protecting his position rather than doing what's right for the country.
Well it’s a slow drip of the patently obvious hopefully.
The idea of fixing whatever happens next with a second lockdown is thankfully drifting away.
 

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Media reported that cases "SURGED" today...

but just one further death reported. In the whole of the UK. Good news, and we've come a long way. But this just makes brief sidelines against the massive headline that "cases jump by 1,715" (see e.g.: https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/30/uk-r...s-death-cases-jump-1715-13199173/?ito=cbshare)
It is funny how during the main part of the lockdown, cases were skipped over and all the focus was on deaths.

Now it seems the death number is too small for the media to be interested in, so they focus on cases instead, presumably to keep the ‘second wave’ prediction in people’s minds
 

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If Matt Hancock does implement a second national lockdown(as he says he refuses to rule out, despite Boris saying last month that a second national lockdown IS ruled out!) - especially if the deaths remain VERY VERY LOW like they are now, then it will be absolutely madness and reckless, and I expect he will be the most hated man in Britain. It's now over 5 months since the full lockdown, even though the lockdown has eased quite a bit since then, we are still FAR from being back to normal due to these ongoing COVID restrictions still dragging on with no end in sight. Just imagine if say next month or October, we then reset back to the full national lockdown back on 23rd March and all this drags on for at least several months AGAIN. The country will be in a horrible state, and I fear there will be civil unrest. Most of us won't be be able to take a full national lockdown AGAIN!

I will not abide by a national lockdown, and I suspect a critical mass of others will do likewise.
 

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I will not abide by a national lockdown, and I suspect a critical mass of others will do likewise.
Seconded.
It is funny how during the main part of the lockdown, cases were skipped over and all the focus was on deaths.

Now it seems the death number is too small for the media to be interested in, so they focus on cases instead, presumably to keep the ‘second wave’ prediction in people’s minds
Agreed too.
 

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Media reported that cases "SURGED" today...

but just one further death reported. In the whole of the UK. Good news, and we've come a long way. But this just makes brief sidelines against the massive headline that "cases jump by 1,715" (see e.g.: https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/30/uk-r...s-death-cases-jump-1715-13199173/?ito=cbshare)
In addition, the daily figures are just by day reported, not by day test taken. There are delays at the moment getting results back. If you look at the figures by day sample taken, the rate has been utterly flat for 3 weeks.
 

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To sum up Matt Hancock


Health Secretary Matt Hancock has been slammed for ‘scaremongering’ talk about a second lockdown that risks ‘untold damage’ to businesses trying to recover from the first one.

The under-fire Minister told The Times yesterday that England could face nationwide restrictions and very extensive local lockdowns in the event of a second wave of Covid-19 this winter.

In an interview he warned countries in others parts of the world were already experiencing a second wave and claimed it was ‘a very serious threat’.

He is now hinting at mini lockdowns in Cumbria according to the local rag.
 
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Bit rich of the media to complain about scaremongering, it’s them who bang on about second waves in the first place
 

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He is now hinting at mini lockdowns in Cumbria according to the local rag.
I don't like Hancock at all but in fairness this is what was reported:
Speaking exclusively to The Mail, the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, Matt Hancock, said that a micro lockdown was a possibility for Cumbria.
He said: “Any future micro lockdowns in the county must be made as part of a conversation between all local authorities."
Source: The Mail
Note this is NOT The Daily Mail.

He's not saying there's going to be lockdowns, he's just stating how it will be handled IF it were to become necessary.
The media is just twisting this because of course a local 'lockdown' is a theoretical possibility anywhere.
 

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Is it me, or are we starting to see a change in media opinion?
 

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In my opinion it will almost certainly change when we start to see the impact of all this on the economy etc.

I suspect the end date of the furlough scheme might be significant, when Karen the Facebook Furlough either has to go back to work or finds she has no job to go back to. She might change her views somewhat then...
 

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I suspect the end date of the furlough scheme might be significant, when Karen the Facebook Furlough either has to go back to work or finds she has no job to go back to. She might change her views somewhat then...

Also because this coincides with the return of schools and universities - if that's found to be yet another event which should cause a second wave but doesn't, then that will further shift media opinion.
 

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I suspect the end date of the furlough scheme might be significant, when Karen the Facebook Furlough either has to go back to work or finds she has no job to go back to. She might change her views somewhat then...
And of course she won’t have the excuse of having to furlough ‘cos little Karenetta ain’t at school, innit?’ to fall back on...
 

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Typical BBC bias......
I have just seen on "Breaking news" (on BBC News 24)

"England : Four more hospital deaths of people who tested positive for Covid"

Where to start with this ?
Well, on the one hand they have said "people who tested positive for Covid", as opposed to "people have died from Covid". A very important distinction, but possibly lost on many people (probably the same people who want all this social distancing quarantine and face masks to continue.....).
But, the BBC have missed out the most significant word "ONLY" (as in "only four more people".....).
 
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Typical BBC bias......
I have just seen on "Breaking news" (on BBC News 24)

"England : Four more hospital deaths of people who tested positive for Covid"

Where to start with this ?
Well, on the one hand they have said "people who tested positive for Covid", as opposed to "people have died from Covid". A very important distinction, but possibly lost on many people (probably the same people who want all this social distancing quarantine and face masks to continue.....).
But, the BBC have missed out the most significant word "ONLY" (as in "only four more people".....).
Ah but isn't this a fourfold increase from yesterday?!!! Surprised the media are being so restrained, not often they'll get that big an increase!!!
 

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I don't get it. 4 hospital deaths, yet 2 deaths across all settings! How does that work out?
 

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Typical BBC bias......
I have just seen on "Breaking news" (on BBC News 24)

"England : Four more hospital deaths of people who tested positive for Covid"
It's unbelievable. When is this rubbish going to stop? Why no daily update of deaths on the road, from cancer and from suicide?
 

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I don't like Hancock at all but in fairness this is what was reported:

Source: The Mail
Note this is NOT The Daily Mail.

He's not saying there's going to be lockdowns, he's just stating how it will be handled IF it were to become necessary.
The media is just twisting this because of course a local 'lockdown' is a theoretical possibility anywhere.

But he's probably said enough to scare the people of Cumbria
 
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A report from my local "rag" today. Hidden away in the report is the line that the hospital is treating ONE, just ONE patient for Covid at this time, and this on the back of a spike in cases which was reported nationally, as was the decision to move Northampton to an "area of intervention" by the Government......

I would have thought the fact that following the much publicised spike only one person was being treated would be more newsworthy that the fact that 12 toddlers have been in hospital over the last five months.....and presumably all of them recovered as I don't remember a report if a youngster dying of the virus in this area.
 

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A report from my local "rag" today. Hidden away in the report is the line that the hospital is treating ONE, just ONE patient for Covid at this time, and this on the back of a spike in cases which was reported nationally, as was the decision to move Northampton to an "area of intervention" by the Government......

I would have thought the fact that following the much publicised spike only one person was being treated would be more newsworthy that the fact that 12 toddlers have been in hospital over the last five months.....and presumably all of them recovered as I don't remember a report if a youngster dying of the virus in this area.


Talking of local rags, I attach a screenshot from the webpage of the Swindon Evening Advertiser - compare the left hand story with the right hand one!

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I'm looking forward to the first day after 0 deaths "Coronavirus death rate jumps by infinity%"
 

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I'm looking forward to the first day after 0 deaths "Coronavirus death rate jumps by infinity%"

I can see it now:

"An infinite more people contracted the coronavirus today than yesterday. Local health experts Karen & Dave expressed their concern and horror at the news that the number of cases per week in their area had risen from zero to 1. When asked Karen said 'I knew it, I said to the local FB group just yesterday, the second wave is coming! I don't have any more time to talk, I must get back on and post an almost infinite number of memes that prove without evidence that we are all going to die'.

Dave just commented 'Can't we just go to the Winchester, at least so I can find a good divorce lawyer?'"
 

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There really should be a Panaroma type programme put out to give people the facts as they are at present!
Whilst the media go mad about reporting an daily increase in cases they don't mention that they are still only around a fifth of the peak figures from April.
They don't mention that death figures are in the 10's, sometimes in single figures compared to the many hundreds and on some days over 1000 per day back in the peak.
They don't mention that the cases are being found due to increased testing and over 90% of people are displaying no, or very mild symptoms
They don't mention that as of today there are only 100 or so patients admitted to hospital per day compared with over 3000 a day in the peak
They don't mention that as of today there are only 70 patients on ventilators in the UK compared to over 3000 in the peak
They don't mention that there are only 764 people in hospital being treated for the effects of Covid compared to nearly 20000 in the peak.
They don't mention that the death figure is bogus as it in no way identifies that a person died of Covid ( it needed an external organisation to tell PHE that this was the case for those over 28 days. Why would anyone trust any organisation who comes up with such absurdities)
It is still the case that if you are run over by a tram 27 days after a positive Covid test you are added to the death toll
They don't mention that the number of people testing positive is bogus as there are false positives and multiple counting ( My understanding is if a person is tested 3 times and is positive each time that is counted as three cases of Covid)
 

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It is still the case that if you are run over by a tram 27 days after a positive Covid test you are added to the death toll
I was under the impression that the government had stopped doing this. I was obviously wrong.
 

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I was under the impression that the government had stopped doing this. I was obviously wrong.

No the change was made for England that the death only counted if a positive Covid test within 28 days rather than ever having had a positive Covid test
 
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