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did you apply through TPE? if so, how did you get your results?
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Lanc688
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Yeah, I emailed them and then later I spoke to central resourcing team yesterday who advised that the results haven't been added to the system yet, so they aren't showing on my record. Would love to know where I went wrong!
Lanc688
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Kayla,
In your shoes, I would wait until they had put the data on to the database and ask again.
If TPE are unable to advise you further then I would go to OPC, if they were the ones used for the tests.
I would hope that you would be able to get some good feedback from at least the holders of the database whoever they are (OPC should be able to tell you) and don't forget that the Data Protection Act 1988 should entitle you to see any info that is held on yourself if it all becomes 'difficult'.
Good luck and keep us updated on how you get on.
Lanc
I too wonder this! Did you receive this passage "...you have not been successful in meeting the required industry standard..."
Yep, exactly the same. It also states they would be happy to receive an application from me in the future; which could be either a standard phrase or it could hint at how I did. Who knows?! Anyway; I've marked 6 months in my diary
TheVicLine
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Bridgewater House on Friday 28th which I think is the same place as the first assessment (Solar powered train one).
Thanks vic. They must be using different venues on different days. I am going on Thursday to Freemasons Hall. My fault finding text was done at a hotel and the OPC tests at bridgewater.
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Beveridges
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Here is a link to a practice program for the reactions test:
http://www.krismason.org/files/reactiontest.zip
Forget Bop It, all you need is this
http://www.krismason.org/files/reactiontest.zip
Forget Bop It, all you need is this
hi thanks .... is there any instructions with how to use it? ive downloaded it and got it running but unsure of what to press in regards to the relevant colours sounds etc..
Beveridges
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The whole point of it is to increase your speed while remaining accurate. Practice it for long enough and you'd be able to hit the pretend buttons without looking and it will become as easy as typing on a keyboard.
Clearly it does not tell you your performance but you get a good idea when you make a mistake yourself without a program needing to tell you.
The practice test reaches a much faster speed than the real one.
Clearly it does not tell you your performance but you get a good idea when you make a mistake yourself without a program needing to tell you.
The practice test reaches a much faster speed than the real one.
doubleamber
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A lot of people have already had there "not met the criteria" letter , so you might be on the next wave of applications. Good luck anyway .
Yep, I applied on the 7th Aug & my application status still says 'Awaiting Shortlisting'. Like they say, no news is good news so here's hoping we hear something soon!
Good luck.
Silv1983
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If your application had been read and you are successful - you get a place on an assessment day. If your application has been read and you are unsuccessful - you get the "sorry...." email. No news means your application hasn't been read yet. Simples.
Hi Karlbbb
I too applied on 7th August and am 'awaiting shortlisting'. I e-mailed H.R a couple of weeks back searching for a bit of feedback and they replied with a generic message of basically they're waiting for the results of shortlisting from the line managers and that the assessments are done in batches due to the high volume of applications. So it seems we just have to wait and be patient. Oh and note to oneself...submit future applications much sooner!!
Best of luck to you..
I too applied on 7th August and am 'awaiting shortlisting'. I e-mailed H.R a couple of weeks back searching for a bit of feedback and they replied with a generic message of basically they're waiting for the results of shortlisting from the line managers and that the assessments are done in batches due to the high volume of applications. So it seems we just have to wait and be patient. Oh and note to oneself...submit future applications much sooner!!
Best of luck to you..
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Well, I've just called OPC for some feedback from my assessments.
Seems I met the National Standard so that must mean a borderline pass.:cry:
Sadly not good enough for FTPE, as they don't accept those.
However its slightly reassuring to know that I did pass albeit not to the requirements of this particular TOC.
I am still beating myself up over it, especially with the amount of planning and preparation I did for this.
What was also interesting was the fact that I did well on Glop and Dials.
I was certain I cocked the Glop up!
The Group Bourdon was my weak point. I almost reached the bottom of the page with the Group Bourdon having practiced for weeks.
My guess is that I missed a few of the four dots trying to go too quickly.
Yep, don't remind me - Quality as well as quantity!
So in a nut shell I can apply with a National Standard pass to other TOC for now but just not FTPE for 6 months.
Still gutted but now feel a little better.
Good luck to those through to Judges Houses.
Seems I met the National Standard so that must mean a borderline pass.:cry:
Sadly not good enough for FTPE, as they don't accept those.
However its slightly reassuring to know that I did pass albeit not to the requirements of this particular TOC.
I am still beating myself up over it, especially with the amount of planning and preparation I did for this.
What was also interesting was the fact that I did well on Glop and Dials.
I was certain I cocked the Glop up!
The Group Bourdon was my weak point. I almost reached the bottom of the page with the Group Bourdon having practiced for weeks.
My guess is that I missed a few of the four dots trying to go too quickly.
Yep, don't remind me - Quality as well as quantity!
So in a nut shell I can apply with a National Standard pass to other TOC for now but just not FTPE for 6 months.
Still gutted but now feel a little better.
Good luck to those through to Judges Houses.
Beveridges
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Just apply with Northern they advertise more often and your psychometric test pass will be okay with them and it certainly isnt 3000 applications per job either. They advertise for Drivers and Depot Driver regularly.
Getting into FTPE straight off as a trainee is HARD as I know that some *Qualified* drivers in Northern who have tried hard to get in and failed so cant think how hard it must be for unqualified!
Getting into FTPE straight off as a trainee is HARD as I know that some *Qualified* drivers in Northern who have tried hard to get in and failed so cant think how hard it must be for unqualified!
notadriver
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I think more qualified drivers get into FTPE than those that don't.
Lanc688
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Beveridges.
You surprise me there...I was under the impression that Northern, like First required at least 'pass' in all the testing.
I had looked into it because my first time at DBS, I only managed Borderline in DTG although good passes with the others. I was gutted because I was under the impression that no TOC would take this! :cry:
Granted though, I know that you're in the industry so of course give you the benefit of the doubt.
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Lanc
I got my rejection letter last week, to be honest it really is down to luck and generally just bollocks i think. I got rejected by FTPE, yet accepted to go through assessments to be an Air Traffic Controller. Which of them 2 jobs is more difficult really? Advantage is that the questions on the ATC assessment make the train driver onnes look like a piece of cake so even if i fail, it's really good practice
Beveridges
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I had looked into it because my first time at DBS, I only managed Borderline in DTG although good passes with the others. I was gutted because I was under the impression that no TOC would take this! :cry:
Granted though, I know that you're in the industry so of course give you the benefit of the doubt.
Regards
Lanc
I mostly A's but got borderline passes (B's) in two of the Structured Interview criteria:
1) Able to follow rules and instructions
2) Able to work alone for long periods
But I still managed to get into the Depot Driving grade, which has the same criteria as mainline. From this I am under the impression that Northern accept Borderline passes.
notadriver
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Train driving isn't a hard job. It's just that everyone wants to do it. FTPE are one of the more prestigious operators too. I would say an FTPE driver has a more satisfying job than an air traffic controller.
Sunday_mornin
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Northern do not accept borderline passes anymore.
The act of driving a train is not generally difficult. A monkey can be trained to pull and push levers and press the odd button. Its the environment, rules & regs, traction knowledge and route knowledge etc etc that makes it difficult and like Not A Driver said, the number of applicants is huge so the cull is also huge.
I'd imagine that ATC is alot more stressful tho!
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