319010 new thameslink livery

[Skimble19]

Well that really is a blank canvas.. Even more so than the 365s!

 

[SN319]

Seen just now at Sutton... Looking nice working working with a standard 319/3. Surprised theres no interior change...
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Does anyone have tomorrows expected workings?

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Hi is this unit out tonight pls?
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What diagram is this working today pls. I might try and catch it later if I get ou of work early

 

[hassaanhc]

Earlier I saw it on the 2V71 1344 Luton to Sutton (Surrey) http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/G71876/2014/06/28/advanced

The rest of the diagram appears to be:
2V72 1538 Sutton (Surrey) to St Albans
(5K97 1659 St Albans to St Albans)
2O97 1714 St Albans to Sutton (Surrey)
2O98 1837 Sutton (Surrey) to Luton
2V45 2050 Luton to Sutton (Surrey)
(5V45 2240 Sutton (Surrey) to London Blackfriars)
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Although as always it can't be guaranteed that it will be there later

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Thanks!
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Any chance of this unit's diagram being posted early tomorrow please if possible?

Thanks in advance...

 

[SN319]

Anyone have tonights workings please? Thanks!

 

[Islineclear3_1]

If anyone's interested this is working 13.44 SAC - Sutton and has broken window behind secondmans side

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Finally managed a decent(ish) shot today - shame about the window behind the cab...

 

[jon0844]

Just got in the lift at Blackfriars as it pulled in going north this morning. Looks nice from the very brief look I got of it, but could see the interior was untouched (it shows!).

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[SN319]

Anyone know if this has worked Brighton-Bedford yet?

 

[Aictos]

Got to ask but is it out today at all (10th July)

 

[Saint66]

Saw this at St Pancras at about 1pm briefly on Wednesday. Although not in natural light, I thought it looked pretty good, bit of a change at least!

 

[Class377/5]

Todays workings in case anyone wants to catch the unit

06:43 Luton to Bromley South
08:18 Bromley South to Bedford
14:54 Bedford to Brighton
17:37 Brighton to Bedford
20:22 Bedford to Brighton
23:11 Brighton to Bedford

 

[user15681]

319001 and 319373 both now in the livery, heading backs today. Was only expecting 001 seeing as it went in before 373. 001 has been named, I'll try and find out what, and 373 should have some internal changes IIRC.

Edit - Looks like 001 could have retained its name "Driver Mick Winnett". Might stand out a bit more on a background of light grey, so maybe just more noticeable than before.

 

[Domh245]

If it is the train I think it is, It should already be at bedford, since 1135

 

[387star]

Damn but the 319/0s need interior work the most! Presumably none being repainted are heading north anytime soon
I realise there is crossrail to reading but there still needs to be a main replacement for the 165/6 and fgw are unhappy with 319s

This would leave more 319s free for up north

Crossrail arnt taking over all thames Valley services are they?

 

[Class377/5]

Damn but the 319/0s need interior work the most! Presumably none being repainted are heading north anytime soon
I realise there is crossrail to reading but there still needs to be a main replacement for the 165/6 and fgw are unhappy with 319s

This would leave more 319s free for up north

Crossrail arnt taking over all thames Valley services are they?

All the units getting the work done at the moment are ones staying on Thameslink.

Don't forget by next summer there will be 35x 319 freed up by cascades. Plently of time for work to be arranged for GW bound units prior to the the required usage of Dec 2016.

 

[petersi]

Damn but the 319/0s need interior work the most! Presumably none being repainted are heading north anytime soon
I realise there is crossrail to reading but there still needs to be a main replacement for the 165/6 and fgw are unhappy with 319s

This would leave more 319s free for up north

Crossrail arnt taking over all thames Valley services are they?

If you look at this document page 76

The cascade is linked to AC and DC units. They need to cascade 82 AC unites
This document sugests that the 82 will be made up of at least 25 317's and 321's from Great Northern plus some 365's. A guestimate this could be as many as 40 unites. So almost half of the AC. The rest of the 319's may count against the DC total.

 

[westcoaster]

Another unit arrived in the new colours today 319001

 

[hairyhandedfool]

319001 and 319373 both now in the livery, heading backs today. Was only expecting 001 seeing as it went in before 373. 001 has been named, I'll try and find out what, and 373 should have some internal changes IIRC.

Edit - Looks like 001 could have retained its name "Driver Mick Winnett". Might stand out a bit more on a background of light grey, so maybe just more noticeable than before.

I think there would have been terrible scenes at Bedford Depot if it had lost the name, as I understand it, the drivers were very much in support of the naming, Mick was a lovely bloke and I was saddened to hear of his passing.

 

[Class377/5]

319373 is out working on the BML today. Looks good in person.

 

[Brian Aylott]

[QUOTE All the units getting the work done are ones staying on Thameslink]
That surely can't be right for none are staying with TSGN Thameslink
Brian

 

[Manchester77]

[QUOTE All the units getting the work done are ones staying on Thameslink]
That surely can't be right for none are staying with TSGN Thameslink
Brian

He means for the time being - until the mass withdrawel when the 700s come on stream

 

[Class377/5]

[QUOTE All the units getting the work done are ones staying on Thameslink]
That surely can't be right for none are staying with TSGN Thameslink
Brian

The ones that are staying on Thameslink as in the next 12 months 35 of the fleet are going out of 86. The 700s won't replace the 319s from Thameslink duties until late 2016 at best, which leaves 51 'staying' on Thameslink for the pedantic.

 

[Minstral25]

If you look at this document page 76

The cascade is linked to AC and DC units. They need to cascade 82 AC unites
This document sugests that the 82 will be made up of at least 25 317's and 321's from Great Northern plus some 365's. A guestimate this could be as many as 40 unites. So almost half of the AC. The rest of the 319's may count against the DC total.

I had always assumed the 82 AC capable units are the 319's being released (4 due to have left before Franchise start date in September and the 116 110 mph units are the 387's?

Never quite understood what the 44 DC only units are, both in terms of consist and where they would go? If anyone knows that would be interesting.

With 377's replacing units at Kings Lynn whether Govia have negotiated extra 387's to stay to cover duties South of the river. As although 700's are arriving to replace some 377 duties, other 377 duties are being extended (i.e. 8 coach 377/2 on WLL) and increasing in frequency plus 25 units to SouthEastern so I would expect that all units released are being reused and more are needed perhaps

 

[swt_passenger]

I had always assumed the 82 AC capable units are the 319's being released (4 due to have left before Franchise start date in September and the 116 110 mph units are the 387's?

Never quite understood what the 44 DC only units are, both in terms of consist and where they would go? If anyone knows that would be interesting.

The DfT's table doesn't actually state 'DC only' though, it calls for 44 'DC capable'. It is clear from the following notes that a dual voltage unit (e.g. a 319) can fulfil the requirements for either DC capable or AC capable, an individual unit cannot be part of both requirements though.

Regarding your other point about 377s, I think there will be a sufficient number of 377s released by 700 arrival, but also, as I suggested in the GoVia/TSGN franchise thread the other day:

I think some of the probable rolling stock moves (posted in good faith at the time) had become so settled in the collective mind that what we have now has pretty wide ranging differences.

For the best example, I think people were taking it as read that all the SN 313s would end up on the GN, and this meant that all the Coastway routes would have to become 377 operated. Well that isn't happening now...

 

[Class377/5]

I had always assumed the 82 AC capable units are the 319's being released (4 due to have left before Franchise start date in September and the 116 110 mph units are the 387's?

Never quite understood what the 44 DC only units are, both in terms of consist and where they would go? If anyone knows that would be interesting.

With 377's replacing units at Kings Lynn whether Govia have negotiated extra 387's to stay to cover duties South of the river. As although 700's are arriving to replace some 377 duties, other 377 duties are being extended (i.e. 8 coach 377/2 on WLL) and increasing in frequency plus 25 units to SouthEastern so I would expect that all units released are being reused and more are needed perhaps

80x 319 are left at the start of the GTR franchise not 82 as its direct 6x 377/2 replacing 6x 319s.

 

[user15681]

Can confirm name on 319001 as Driver Mick Winnett. Glad it was kept. It's a vinyl as before, white writing on a blue background (same blue as doors).

 

[Defiance149]

Can confirm name on 319001 as Driver Mick Winnett. Glad it was kept. It's a vinyl as before, white writing on a blue background (same blue as doors).

Presumably on both sides this time? Was only ever on one side when in FCC colours I believe.

 

[SN319]

Does anyone have a list of what units have been done? Saw 319009 earlier.