Abellio Greater Anglia Class 755s (Regional Trains)

[ashkeba]

For once it seems like DfT have reached a good compromise with that decision. Makes the scheduling more critical though, cue a future journey check entry - this service has been cancelled due to the train needing fuel...

Is that likely to be attribution code MC (Diesel loco defect) or the seemingly catch-all MU (Depot operational problem)?

 

[samuelmorris]

I'd have thought MU.

 

[LAX54]

I'd have thought MU.

That's what it seems to be on TRUST

 

[dk1]

What sort of distance is that? And is that on diesel or leccy?

Oh it's hard to say a distance. That is in electric mode and bloody quick acceleration I tell thee.

 

[hexagon789]

For once it seems like DfT have reached a good compromise with that decision. Makes the scheduling more critical though, cue a future journey check entry - this service has been cancelled due to the train needing fuel...

It means they can of course run as fast as the units they replace everywhere, plus gain the benefits of improved acceleration. The only downside is they need fuelled during the day on some diagrams apparently. Hopefully they sign off on fuelling at Ipswich and Colchester soon

 

[hexagon789]

Oh it's hard to say a distance. That is in electric mode and bloddy quick acceleration I tell thee.

They are said to be quick, especially the 3-car

 

[AC47461]

Oh it's hard to say a distance. That is in electric mode and bloddy quick acceleration I tell thee.

Diss to Audley End Xing is about 1.8miles. I think you said you were north of Diss so less than that

 

[dk1]

Diss to Audley End Xing is about 1.8miles. I think you said you were north of Diss so less than that

Yeah, had caught up the previous IC formed of 90/DVT several times.

 

[eastdyke]

On another forum it was stated that Ipswich Plat. 1 and Colchester Plat. 6 would be used for re-fuelling once risk assessments had been made.
...

Thanks. Are there any precedents for refuelling at a station platform (albeit from the non-platform side)?
Perhaps someone can think of some?

 

[trebor79]

Thanks. Are there any precedents for refuelling at a station platform (albeit from the non-platform side)?
Perhaps someone can think of some?

Steam days filling the tender water tank

 

[eastdyke]

Steam days filling the tender water tank

The risk assesment for the new kit was going well until someone asked how the Fire Devil operated

 

[delticdave]

, post: 4386453, member: 5689"]Thanks. Are there any precedents for refuelling at a station platform (albeit from the non-platform side)?
Perhaps someone can think of some?[/QUOTE]

Not in the UK, but there's video evidence of Diesel railcars being refueled at the passenger platform in Palma(Mallorca) & on the RTM system in the Rotterdam Delta.

GO Transit stable their Diesel loco hauled trains at the suburban termini overnight, & some of the platforms have electric power cables & air-supply pipes, they may also have fuelling points too.

 

[dk1]

Plans are to fuel units in platform 1 at Ipswich overnight.

 

[Icky Qualms]

What were the problems with using the Freightliner pump in the down station sidings?

 

[dk1]

What were the problems with using the Freightliner pump in the down station sidings?

It belongs to Freightliner & they plan (although all gone quiet) to the upper yard.

 

[168001]

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[Rick1984]

219% which is fantastic increase. That's a non PRM 72 seat ex Geater Anglia 153. Hopefully I'm right but the Platform 5 book says that.

Wow. Really shows the difference in a 4 car FLIRT over a single 153

 

[Railperf]

Oh it's hard to say a distance. That is in electric mode and bloody quick acceleration I tell thee.

I have measured 0 to 100mph in 69 seconds and 1.3 miles. Slightly downhill start though.

 

[gingerheid]

Braving the train again

755 instead of a 153 on the 0642 from Cambridge to Ipswich is the life

Strangely dreadful sound quality on the intercom though; announcements are always broken up and hard to hear.

 

[eastdyke]

It belongs to Freightliner & they plan (although all gone quiet) to the upper yard.

I know that a planning application went in, will try to check on progress later and on what fuel arrangements were included.

Plans are to fuel units in platform 1 at Ipswich overnight.

Do you know if a bunded storage tank was included or just direct delivery from a road tanker?
Cheers!

It might seem perverse to 'the authorities' that 'the railway' cannot manage a single fuel point for a relatively small number of locos and units at Ipswich

 

[LAX54]

I know that a planning application went in, will try to check on progress later and on what fuel arrangements were included.

Do you know if a bunded storage tank was included or just direct delivery from a road tanker?
Cheers!

It might seem perverse to 'the authorities' that 'the railway' cannot manage a single fuel point for a relatively small number of locos and units at Ipswich

Of course the fuel road / table road is not only used for fuelling

As from last week, there is no access to the Upper Yard from the rest of the Network, it is all fenced off, we can now only Signal trains to the Reception Roads ( 1 to 4)

 

[dk1]

I know that a planning application went in, will try to check on progress later and on what fuel arrangements were included.

Do you know if a bunded storage tank was included or just direct delivery from a road tanker?
Cheers!

It might seem perverse to 'the authorities' that 'the railway' cannot manage a single fuel point for a relatively small number of locos and units at Ipswich

Just a road tanker on the old fish dock was what was mentioned.

 

[eastdyke]

Just a road tanker on the old fish dock was what was mentioned.

mmmm...
It's probably elephant pee rather than fish that you can smell. The circus trains used that back in the 1950's, a local event in its own right!

 

[eastdyke]

Of course the fuel road / table road is not only used for fuelling
As from last week, there is no access to the Upper Yard from the rest of the Network, it is all fenced off, we can now only Signal trains to the Reception Roads ( 1 to 4)

I remember the table ....
Looks then as if Freightliner are progessing the depot proposal, will still check the planning to see if I can tell how the new fuel point will work.

 

[LAX54]

I remember the table ....
Looks then as if Freightliner are progessing the depot proposal, will still check the planning to see if I can tell how the new fuel point will work.

Yard Supervisor says building work starts today (16th)

 

[eastdyke]

Yard Supervisor says building work starts today (16th)

Excellent news, thank you
Will remove LE occupation of platform ends and all those moves at the western throat. Bring it on!
And then of course P5/6 LOL ........ ££££££ ..........

 

[eastdyke]

Have now checked the PA for the Freightliner facility.
https://ppc.ipswich.gov.uk/appndetails.asp?iAppID=19/00071/FUL&sType=APP&search_params=pageNumber=1&txtStreetName=Ranelagh+Road&hdnStreetID=!0000MG00SD000!&txtValStartDate=01%2F12%2F2018&txtValEndDate=31%2F01%2F2019&pnlAdvancedOpen=1&&prev_search_params=&det_search_params=
The new facility includes:

Reinforced concrete fueling (sic) pad two locomotives long with steel framed canopy over; 48.00 x 3.20m; reinforced concrete bunded locomotive stands full length.
Two 100,000 Litres fuel tanks with reinforced concrete tanker stand at one end.

Bunded length would seem to exclude use by GA
The planning approval and conditions may give 'the railway' a further problem:

This permission is also subject to the following condition(s): -
...
23. On commencement of the hereby-approved use, the applicant shall cease maintenance or fuelling at the existing facility adjacent to Ipswich Train Station.

The reasons for the above condition(s) are as follows: -
...
23. In the interests of amenity and to avoid fuelling and maintenance activities being carried out by the applicant at two locations in close proximity to each other.

 

[mawallace]

Interesting to see GA admit they need to improve the new trains to the press

https://www.lowestoftjournal.co.uk/news/greater-anglia-pledge-after-rail-chaos-1-6467986

Greater Anglia has now said it is working with train makers Stadler to try to identify the problems that have developed - and to ensure the trains are able to provide a reliable service.

A spokeswoman for Greater Anglia said: "We are very sorry for the disruption and cancellations customers on our local lines in Suffolk have experienced in recent days. We are implementing a number of actions to improve train service performance. These include :

"■ Additional work to overcome teething issues with the new trains as quickly as possible

"■ Work to speed up the completion of all the testing, commissioning and training associated with the introduction of the new trains

"■ Action to help enable smooth overnight operations at Norwich Crown Point depot.

"■ Work to review and revise contingency plans for when problems do occur."We believe these initiatives will result in a progressively improving service in the weeks ahead, so we can then consistently provide the high quality service customers rightly expect and we intend to deliver.

 

[Ianno87]

Curiously, a friend of my wife claims to have boarded this train at Shelford earlier, travelling south: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/F45860/2020-01-16/detailed

Her words to my wife (passed on to me) were "It's a new train and it was terminating at Bishop's Stortford", and the time she gave corresponded.

Are these 5Qxx paths carrying passengers?

Edit: Turns out she didn't get on it, but was a little confused by the trains's destination being shown as Bishop's Stortford in spite of not being in service.

 

[hexagon789]

I have measured 0 to 100mph in 69 seconds and 1.3 miles. Slightly downhill start though.

Even so, that's impressively quick