dk1
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Superb throughout.
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Jamesrob637
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Good as it gets very hot in East Anglia. But also extremely cold in winter. Very European climate in comparison with points west. One thing that tempts me to move there.
Class 170101
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But don't expect a train service if we get more than an inch of snow and a severely reduced one if any falls.
Fast Track
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Just wondering - Given the better feedback wouldn't the 755's have been a more suitable replacement for GWR HST's than the Hitachi 800's?
Top speed is lower and you'd need multiple thrash cupboards per unit... You could put them at either end of of the train as a separate vehicle and put a cab on them.... Ah... Wait... Hasn't that been done?
James James
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Flirts can be built in a 200km/h version - but IIRC Stadler were offering the smile as a hybrid for the midlands (which can go up to 250km/h), so either way - would work. Where to put the generators is indeed a problem though.
59CosG95
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(For reference to those not familiar with Stadler products, the "SMILE" stands for "Schneller Mehrsystemfähiger Innovativer Leichter Expresszug", or "speedy, multi-system, innovative, lightweight express train". Only one example is in service currently, this being the SBB RABe 501.)
Do we have a source for them offering this?
James James
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Flirt 200km/h: NSB 74/75/76 (of which the last one will be bi-mode, but aren't built yet, limited to 160km/h on diesel): https://www.stadlerrail.com/media/pdf/fnor0919e.pdf
Smile UK:
- Some posts on this forum, but you'll have to search for that.
- Confirmed as a lost bid in https://www.stadlerrail.com/media/pdf/2020_0305_fachmedienpräsentation_final.pdf (search for Midlands)
Interesting, thanks.
Nicholas Lewis
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How many of the 38 units are being diagrammed daily?
dk1
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Something like 24 I think. Difficult to say as unlike previous DMUs some of these have to swap over during the day for refuelling.
chiltern trev
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Level Boarding. What is the level boarding experience of these units? It is clearly near level and thus easier to board than higher floor units, but how level? What if is the height difference? Is there much of a gap between the car floor and the platform edge? Do wheelchair users need to book in advance or is it turn up and go?
Are more wheelchair users and families with pushchairs and buggies using the service - this question may of course not be applicable or determinable at the moment due to COVID?
Are more wheelchair users and families with pushchairs and buggies using the service - this question may of course not be applicable or determinable at the moment due to COVID?
Completely level boarding at all the platforms I've used. Before the door opens, a piece of floor slides out, makes contact with the platform edge and then retracts about half a centimetre so there is essentially no gap.
I'm not sure if wheelchair users need to book. There are "755 only" ramps chained up at the rural stations, but I can't imagine what they would be needed for.
dk1
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The use of a ramp is pretty much extinct in these parts nowadays.
Rick1984
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You occasionally get the odd ramp that doesn't line up with edge quite as well due to the platform, not the train.
Even then it's still pretty level
Even then it's still pretty level
dk1
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If the ramp fails then the doors are locked out of use.
dk1
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Probably as some gaps still exist. We have also had those that for some reason are unsure about the retracting step and request a ramp. Luckily the superior acceleration can claw back the delay then incurred.
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An example of this can be seen in this tweet: https://twitter.com/speedysticks007/status/1285888731694739459?s=21
And here: https://twitter.com/speedysticks007/status/1285889124780711936?s=21
(I’m not in a position to try to embed the photos or similar right now, but for those who can’t/don’t wish to follow the links through to Twitter - the tweets have a photo of not quite so level boarding against platforms at Norwich and Peterborough respectively.)
Rick1984
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Cheers, couldn't find any images to illustrate. That Peterborough one looks like it could potentially cause damage!
Midnight Sun
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Only on Platform five at Peterborough which is a bit low. The GA Ipswich trains very rarely use this this platform, Normally uses platform six.
chiltern trev
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Thanks for the responses on level access - very useful and enabled me to start another thread elsewhere on level access - https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...-prams-pushchair-and-mor.207516/#post-4710864
James James
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That thing hanging off the bottom is (I think) there to detect obstacles and prevent damage. Haven't actually seen this documented, but that's how I've observed it working.
samuelmorris
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As far as I know, they will not be working from Liverpool Street for the foreseeable future.
As soon as the step touches something it pulls back a few centimeters before stopping. The little dangly bits are to detect anything directly under the step, so it stops the step passing over a platform and then possibly either trapping something or getting caught and unable to retract.
grumpyoldman01
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I spent the beginning of this week in Norwich and rode on 3-car and 4-car sets on both the Cromer/Sheringham and Great Yarmouth lines,
Initial thoughts.
Ride good, I like the level boarding, very noisy when sitting near to the engine compartment, seats uncomfortable (and the moquette on some of the seats hasn't worn very well), surprised that the seats don't seem to be numbered (and therefore no facilities for seat reservations), but overall quite good.
I was surprised that the windows didn't have blinds (but had coach hooks), and subsequently realised that the glass seems to be treated to prevent glare; videos taken through the windows show a small square pattern in the glass which wasn't noticeable to the naked eye.
Until travelling on the trains, I hadn't realised that the actual walk-through was level over the bogies, and that it is just the sides beneath the seats which have raised floors; if it is possible to establish a level walkway over the centres of the bogies, why is it necessary to raise the floor levels on either side?
I noticed that when standing in platforms 1 - 5 in Norwich, the diesel engines were switched off and the pantographs raised; is that normal?
Initial thoughts.
Ride good, I like the level boarding, very noisy when sitting near to the engine compartment, seats uncomfortable (and the moquette on some of the seats hasn't worn very well), surprised that the seats don't seem to be numbered (and therefore no facilities for seat reservations), but overall quite good.
I was surprised that the windows didn't have blinds (but had coach hooks), and subsequently realised that the glass seems to be treated to prevent glare; videos taken through the windows show a small square pattern in the glass which wasn't noticeable to the naked eye.
Until travelling on the trains, I hadn't realised that the actual walk-through was level over the bogies, and that it is just the sides beneath the seats which have raised floors; if it is possible to establish a level walkway over the centres of the bogies, why is it necessary to raise the floor levels on either side?
I noticed that when standing in platforms 1 - 5 in Norwich, the diesel engines were switched off and the pantographs raised; is that normal?
Midnight Sun
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You need somewhere for the wheels go, otherwise they will be tiny. These higher seat are like by people who have problem getting up or down. As they can sit on the seat and bring their legs around. It is normal for the pantograph to be raised so there is power for the AC.