Where I live, the more expensive bikes with owners in lycra have no bell to warn you on mixed path trails.
Sadly these days I think it's a picking your battles type situation. I tend to just turn my music up in my headphones but I am not against saying something if I think it's safe to do so after a quick visual read of the situation. I probably need to get some better noise cancelling headphones as at the moment I have the 3rd gen Airpods but they don't have a noise cancelling feature as such.
Not a problem where I live. Cyclists can't ride on the pavements due to parked cars blocking it...
Was that some years back on a bus in East London? I know an opera singer who did just that, bursting out into full 'can belto' mode. The noisy kids didn't know what had hit them, and afterwards kept as quiet as mice.
Yes very predictable. I cycle on shared use paths occasionally because they are the most convenient and avoid the busiest main roads and junctions (which are likely why at least some inexperienced cyclists ride on pavements even if they shouldn't i.e. the perceived danger from motor vehicles). I have a bell and am very careful around pedestrians as I live in a part of the country with what at times seems to have some of the slowest and most gormless people on the planet. Inconsiderate cycling is bad but I think sometimes pedestrians don't do themselves any favours by being totally unaware of their surroundings and/or buried in their phones. Being vulnerable does not absolve you of at least some responsibility for your own safety. Occasionally I can ring my bell multiple times and be completely ignored so I am forced to ride at 3 mph until I can safely overtake. Dog walkers can be the worst when they stop to have a conversation in the middle of a path junction completely blocking paths in every direction, as though they are doing some form of obstructive protest.
I find that teenagers travelling alone are usually all right. If they do play music they switch it off when asked. Groups are different of course. Middle-aged men on the other hand can be really stubborn and rude.
I end up hollering "stand back and let people off first". If they block my exit I have sharp elbows. I'll probably end up the subject of a thread on here at some point, just like that one moaning about staff at Crewe telling people to stand back.
In which case you can call me 'Genghis Khan'.
I think that opportunity to annoy people was lacking in the past. Modern electronic devices are a bit more portable than a gramophone.
I witnessed a trespass incident a little while ago. BTP had already arrived but were reluctant to go near laddie who was trying to climb up the signal ladder. Some teenage girl was screeching "don't go near him, he'll jump, he's got ADHD" etc. Then the local force arrived. Two officers marched down, one grabbed hold of laddie and dragged him back up the platform, while the other shouted "GET BACK!" at the girl. No messing around.
Was this in an electrified area?
Yep, OHLE. Laddie was at no point at risk of going within zapping range though
Exactly! Pick your battles...as a Guard I wouldn't put myself at risk unnecessarily, we aren't security guards!
Nothing specifically on this sort of ASB. General guidance on any subject however is "don't put yourself at risk, the company won't thank you if you get thumped".
Comes back to what was said above though, the risk of harm if the person being asked does react badly is greater than the result by taking action. Most of the time revenue protection staff have extra training and can be accompanied by security or BTP when doing larger scale checks.
And risk being assaulted, off track and the ensuing shortage of staff leads to cancellations?
Correction. They know they are untouchable really. Unless they are physically hurting someone , the companies don't really want you to put hands on. And that's not just on the railway and a lot of companies won't back you up and as many people point out on here and other threads they don't want you to hold up the train and cause a delay.
