Never say never but it is probably more likely that TVMs will be put in place once the fixed barriers are installed across the oriental platforms.
Tvm? Oriental platforms?
Sorry, you've lost me.
Never say never but it is probably more likely that TVMs will be put in place once the fixed barriers are installed across the oriental platforms.
Tvm? Oriental platforms?
Sorry, you've lost me.
Some Latin would have helped you. Orient refers to the east (rise, in sense of sunrise), occident refers to the west (sunset).Tvm? Oriental platforms?
Sorry, you've lost me.
Indeed.I think he means 'as opposed to the occidental ones'.
The Latin 'TVM', what does that mean? Or even add up to? [emoji38]Some Latin would have helped you. Orient refers to the east (rise, in sense of sunrise), occident refers to the west (sunset).
Indeed.
Some Latin would have helped you. Orient refers to the east (rise, in sense of sunrise), occident refers to the west (sunset).
Indeed.
The Latin 'TVM', what does that mean? Or even add up to? [emoji38]
I assumed that was ticket vending machines - but happy to be put right if there is something in my dusty Latin primer I missed
Hah Ha! Very good ! !It's the accusative of "Tus", . . . . .
Sir Walter Scott himself would be impressed by the scholarly output to be found on this thread.
Borders Railway journeys top 125,000 in first month of operation
More than 125,000 journeys have been made on the new Borders Railway during its first month in operation, according to ScotRail.
The Tweedbank to Edinburgh line opened to the public on 6 September.
ScotRail said public interest in the new route had "soared" after nearly a week of celebrations and the official opening by the Queen.
It said additional carriages had had to be added to services particularly at weekends and "midweek peaks".
The exact figure issued over the first month was 125,971 total passenger journeys.
In addition, 17 sold out steam trains will have run on the line before mid-October, carrying around 6,200 passengers.
Phil Verster, managing director of the ScotRail Alliance, said: "The incredible interest in the Borders Railway over the first few weeks highlights what a remarkable achievement has been made by the opening of the new line.
"By helping to create new opportunities for the people of the Scottish Borders, Midlothian and Edinburgh, this line better connects the regions and benefits both the local people and the local economy.
"There is a great future ahead for Scotland's railways, and the Borders Railway is an exciting part of that."
Transport Minister Derek Mackay said he was delighted to see the "soaraway success of services" and impressive passenger numbers.
"It is particularly good to see the Borders and Midlothian reap the benefits of being reconnected to Scotland's rail network after an absence of almost half a century," he added.
'Taken aback'
Scottish Borders Council leader David Parker said he was always confident the route would be a success but even he was "taken aback" by the usage figures.
"We have not only had Borderers using the service for work and recreation but many people from the central belt have been jumping on board to visit our region," he said.
"The knock-on effect has already been seen, with local businesses such as cafes and restaurants reporting extra trade.
"The aim of the Borders Railway Blueprint programme is for the railway to stimulate growth in our businesses, investment into our region and to create new jobs - already we are starting to see signs of all three and it bodes very well for the future."
Before the £294m line opened, forecasters predicted it would carry almost 650,000 passengers a year.
Former First Minister Alex Salmond said it could be used by one million travellers a year within five years.
The Latin 'TVM', what does that mean? Or even add up to? [emoji38]
Even if it's being considered, you're five or more years before anything happens. There are higher-priority projects in Scotland that will be occupying Network Rail for the foreseeable: Aberdeen-Inverness improvement work, Highland Mainline, Aberdeen crossrail, ongoing EGIP, potentially sorting out Usan, Edinburgh-Glasgow-Aberdeen electrification.Now perhaps they should consider the extension of the line back to Hawick at least & perhaps it may well be prudent to consider doubling the sections that they shortsightedly left as single.
Even if it's being considered, you're five or more years before anything happens. There are higher-priority projects in Scotland that will be occupying Network Rail for the foreseeable: Aberdeen-Inverness improvement work, Highland Mainline, Aberdeen crossrail, ongoing EGIP, potentially sorting out Usan, Edinburgh-Glasgow-Aberdeen electrification.
Oh, I was saying it's at least that long before they even start making anything like concrete plans! The Borders has had its attention for now.Five years is plenty of time to land-bank and plan.
With 125,000 trips in the first month of operation, this should finally shut up the white elephant brigade.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-34456616
With late summer hopes, with wonderful weather, the Queen, at first blush things would look great. But, unless more will be on offer (doubling, and punching through to Carlisle), this line will not prosper. Even with those two, more must be on offer to attract custom (don't know what, but SOMETHING); otherwise, why would the 2 other southbound routes not be used? They are, obviously, quick and efficient. I hope it works; sadly, I fear it will fail. They have, it seems, created what will be a creaky branch line. Sam
That's exactly what it is supposed to be - a 'branch' line serving large, previously unserved Edinburgh commuter communities. It doesn't need to be a through line in order to be successful. Alloa-Stirling has been incredibly successful despite not being a through passenger line.They have, it seems, created what will be a creaky branch line. Sam
everyone except ScotRail seemed to realise that.
Impressive but meaningless - the first few weeks were always going to be busy - everyone except ScotRail seemed to realise that.
The statistics for monthly operations next year will be more meaningful, when the hype and tourist traffic has died down, particularly when compared against those for similar rural routes.
Or how long before steam is restricted to platforms 8 and 9?How long before they will need to clean the rooflights?
Anybody know how to make that attachment a worthwhile size?
My daughter was catching a train at Waverley on Sunday afternoon and managed to get this snap on her phone. How long before they will need to clean the rooflights?
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Anybody know how to make that attachment a worthwhile size?
Although didn't I read somewhere that the glass in the rooflights is self-cleaning anyway?
125,000 trips in the first month is impressive but I agree it is meaningless and gives absolutely no indication of the future success of this service
125,000 trips in the first month is impressive but I agree it is meaningless and gives absolutely no indication of the future success of this service
numbers such as has been quoted will not be maintained and anyone who thinks they will be are quite frankly living in cloud cuckoo land
I do believe that that the service will be a relatively popular service
but after 6 or 12 months and a more detailed breakdown in exactly what journeys are being made and from where to where will determine the frequency of future timetables
125,000 trips in the first month is impressive but I agree it is meaningless and gives absolutely no indication of the future success of this service
numbers such as has been quoted will not be maintained and anyone who thinks they will be are quite frankly living in cloud cuckoo land
I do believe that that the service will be a relatively popular service
but after 6 or 12 months and a more detailed breakdown in exactly what journeys are being made and from where to where will determine the frequency of future timetables