class 320 refurb

[SC318250]

2 x Class 322 in service next Sat confirmed

 

[Damien1986]

320's pass Dalmarnock all the time so I am not sure what the issue is.



Again, I am not sure what the issue is.

Would you not agree that it's probably more likely they haven't got enough of the class 320 units refurbished and they want to spare Scotrail's blushes?

 

[SC318250]

Is Dalmarnock station not on a curve? If so, I guess it will be one of the platforms where sighting might be a problem. However the Class 318 work there so not sure if this would be the problem.

 

[Bittern]

My first suspicion with Hamilton was the different pantograph, a more recent version of the Brecknell-Willis, but on closer inspection I see it is the similar to a Class 334 (permitted for speeds up to 100mph)

And sadly, none of the 314s have passed through Hamilton in many years.

 

[The_Stig]

In passenger use?
I suspect the monitors and/or CCTV cameras have been located in the wrong locations and/or there are visibility issues

My first suspicion with Hamilton was the different pantograph, a more recent version of the Brecknell-Willis, but on closer inspection I see it is the similar to a Class 334 (permitted for speeds up to 100mph)

318's operate these services too and they have a totally different pantograph.

Would you not agree that it's probably more likely they haven't got enough of the class 320 units refurbished and they want to spare Scotrail's blushes?

Why would it be an embarassment?

And sadly, none of the 314s have passed through Hamilton in many years.

They have pretty much the same pantograph as 318's so I doubt it is a pantograph issue.

 

[Damien1986]

318's operate these services too and they have a totally different pantograph.




Why would it be an embarassment?




They have pretty much the same pantograph as 318's so I doubt it is a pantograph issue.

So what is the issue then?

 

[rail-britain]

318's operate these services too and they have a totally different pantograph.

They have pretty much the same pantograph as 318's so I doubt it is a pantograph issue.

The Class 314 and 318 have a Faivley pantograph
The Class 334 has a lightweight high bracket aerofoil Brecknell-Willis pantograph
The Class 320 and 322 have a light low bracket aerofoil Brecknell-Willis pantograph
However, if Class 90 or 91 have been through Hamilton then the pantograph is not the issue

I still believe the issue is the CCTV screen and viewing from the cab of the Class 320, compared to the Class 318
This issue had already been highlighted on the Cathcart routes, hence why that transfer was scrapped a long, long time ago

 

[Damien1986]

The Class 314 and 318 have a Faivley pantograph
The Class 334 has a lightweight high bracket aerofoil Brecknell-Willis pantograph
The Class 320 and 322 have a light low bracket aerofoil Brecknell-Willis pantograph
However, if Class 90 or 91 have been through Hamilton then the pantograph is not the issue

I still believe the issue is the CCTV screen and viewing from the cab of the Class 320, compared to the Class 318
This issue had already been highlighted on the Cathcart routes, hence why that transfer was scrapped a long, long time ago

Surely the problems will be rectified and the Argyle Line will get it's 8 class 320 units as promised by Scotrail?

 

[rail-britain]

Surely the problems will be rectified and the Argyle Line will get it's 8 class 320 units as promised by Scotrail?

Is there a tunnel or echo in here?
Reasons for the delay have been listed, details from Transport Scotland given, outcome and conclusion
No update has been issued to Transport Scotland (due Friday 01 July)
I don't expect to see any change until next month when the final Class 380 project report is published (the last one made good, much improved, reading)

 

[318259]

I saw the 'refurbished' class 320 at Hyndland train station at 08:35 this morning. Didn't get a chance to take a look, I was on another 320 going the other way.

Unlike the Junipers, the window frames haven't been painted so they're bare silver metal.

Anyone got any pics yet?

 

[SC318250]

So they have managed to knock 320314 back into life after she failed the day before, with loss of power at Airdrie.

 

[northwichcat]

The first one has been released which they claim is fully DDA complaint: http://www.rail.co/2011/07/07/first-of-22-scotrail-trains-receives-makeover/

 

[codenamecuebal]

passed it the other day on the way to Helensburgh Central, looked snazzy but really out of place.

 

[alexf380]

Any word on the second unit?

 

[318259]

Anyone get a chance to nab some photos of the interior?

If this picture of a refurbished class 314 is anything to go by, wow: http://www.rail.co/2011/04/11/first-of-16-scotrail-trains-receives-makeover/

 

[Bittern]

The interior hasn't been changed.

 

[MacCookie]

Anyone get a chance to nab some photos of the interior?

If this picture of a refurbished class 314 is anything to go by, wow: http://www.rail.co/2011/04/11/first-of-16-scotrail-trains-receives-makeover/

http://www.scot-rail.co.uk/photos/Class_320s/page1/

 

[Skimble19]

So they put the tip-up seats into the new moquette.. yet leave the rest unchanged?

http://www.scot-rail.co.uk/photo/scaled/9280/
http://www.scot-rail.co.uk/photo/scaled/9282/

 

[alexf380]

Yup, looks like it Skimble19

 

[Damien1986]

On the scot-rail.co.uk website there is a picture taken and uploaded today of a class 320 on an Argyle Line service!

 

[Bittern]

This is not the picture in question, this is my own.

 

[SC318250]

320315 should be coming home today from Doncaster, with another going south tomorrow

 

[RyanB]

Any idea on timings for the unit that's coming up and the one that's going down?

 

[MacCookie]

Any idea on timings for the unit that's coming up and the one that's going down?

Similar to last time I would guess. 15:30ish of Doncaster, into Shields at 23:30ish, then 10:30 off Shields tomorrow, into Doncaster at about 16:30.

Ewan

 

[alexf380]

Will 320315 be going to kilmarnock or is it complete?

 

[MacCookie]

Will 320315 be going to kilmarnock or is it complete?

320314 didn't.

Ewan

 

[alexf380]

Just read on Scot-rail.co.uk the third unit, 320306, went down to doncaster today.

 

[cj_1985]

so far we only have 2 refurbished 320 on the north clyde line in operation units 314 and 315

unit306 is expected to be back up in october, the process is getting there, if only it was faster like send 2/3 units at once rather send 1 unit at a time

you fail to grasp the fact that the units are required to deliver a minimum operational timetable... you know... for the passengers, that PAY to use the trains to get to and from work or school or where ever else...

the more units out of service for refurb or repaint means less seats for passengers (best case scenario) or canceled services (worst case scenario)

 

[yorkie]

so far we only have 2 refurbished 320 on the north clyde line in operation units 314 and 315

unit306 is expected to be back up in october, the process is getting there, if only it was faster like send 2/3 units at once rather send 1 unit at a time

you fail to grasp the fact that the units are required to deliver a minimum operational timetable... you know... for the passengers, that PAY to use the trains to get to and from work or school or where ever else...

the more units out of service for refurb or repaint means less seats for passengers (best case scenario) or canceled services (worst case scenario)

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[Blindtraveler]

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