So it will never happen.
Oh I wouldn't say that. In fact, quite the opposite, I would say it is practically a certainty. And not just at St Pancras.
So it will never happen.
You only have to try travelling North on the Victoria line from Victoria to see how many sheep there are. I occasionally walk up the Southbound platform to gain access to the Northbound platform further up. Alternative is to jump on a Southbound to Pimlico station then double back !.
Unless Victoria station is totally rebuilt and redesigned this is always going to be a major problem on the northbound Victoria line.
Oh I wouldn't say that. In fact, quite the opposite, I would say it is practically a certainty. And not just at St Pancras.
Presumably the doors could be set to open automatically within the core stations? Or certainly at St Pancras where you'll perhaps have a large number of people that aren't regulars. Probably at somewhere like City Thameslink, it will be quite a smooth process.
Back on topic, 387123 came onto service today. That's the 19th one in passenger service. Just ten left now (with two on commissioning runs already).
NIce.
Anymore news on the Gat Ex /2s? Is the delivery gonna be a direct continuation after the /1s order has been fully fulfilled.?
As previously stated, 387/2 build start May with first unit on test in September. No direct continuation.
Back on topic, 387123 came onto service today. That's the 19th one in passenger service. Just ten left now (with two on commissioning runs already).
I thought the carpet smelled new!
what were you doing laying on the floor?!![]()
From what I have heard, the 387/2's won't be anything new really, pretty much the same train but with more luggage space. Presumably they won't have a pantograph either. No doubt the first class will be the same as standard, and with as little first class signage as they can get away with. I wonder how the business travellers will feel about that.
From what I have heard, the 387/2's won't be anything new really, pretty much the same train but with more luggage space. Presumably they won't have a pantograph either. No doubt the first class will be the same as standard, and with as little first class signage as they can get away with. I wonder how the business travellers will feel about that.
Why do you suspect that the 387/2's will not have a pantograph?
Admittedly, the 387/2's will be solely for the Gatwick Express route, however I can see them possibly being interchanged with the 387/1's while they do the Thameslink services and where needed covering for the class 700's should there not be enough available and should there be spare 387/2's.
The 387/2 are having pans. Fact they are being commissioned out of Bletchley depot would confirm this.
There will be no interchanging between the 387/1 and 387/2.
But in a few years, when GatEx wants some new trains, they will be available to replace the 319s that London has cast-off to Northern.![]()
Only my personaly opinion but as the GatEx units are being commissioned for exactly that GatEx, I cannot see them ever being combined with 387/1s, the Liverys for a start wouldn't match and I can't see Govia having its "Flagship" Franchise rolling around in odds and sods.
The other day I had the misfortune of seeing a green 377 sandwiched between two purple ones. Now FCC have gone I'd hoped we might not see that anymore.
Is the Livery on the 387s I see rolling around permanent or not?
They don't look finished being plain White with Green doors. I can't work out if they will add more to them later or not?
The 387/2 are having pans. Fact they are being commissioned out of Bletchley depot would confirm this.
There will be no interchanging between the 387/1 and 387/2.
The fact that the 387/2's will have a pantograph but it will never be used on Gat Ex does this mean that periodic testing of the pantograph functionality will have to be carried out somewhere?
Not really as the 375/6 pans don't get checked. However the difference is Selhurst and Lovers Walk depots will be able to do pan checks.
Never seen it used but there is a Pantograph testing cage at Selhurst.
Its used regularly and was extended for 5 cars prior to the 377/7 arriving.