Class 458/5

[Juniper Driver]

Well, if it is the ex class 460's that are causing the issue then surely the Wimbledon Depot needs to do the same tinkering on the 458'5's as they did on the 458/0's or is it not that simple?

Nah I think the ex gats are doing fine now.I had 520+502 today and 520 was not well.They were still together for the 2152 Weybridge,which was probably a good move.Saw 503 and 530 but they had split up later in the day.Plus the odd ex gat.
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458533+458530 today.Seemed to be many ex gats around apart from 536.Also saw 502 and 520 on it's own.Must be fixed from yesterday.My debut on 530.Saw the 47 lying in wait @ Wimbledon.As I have also got up close to an ex 458/0 (458530) have noticed the big difference with the windows.

 

[hassaanhc]

Rugby today at Twickenham saw at least two 10-car consists out:
458534+458503 I think was the 2R21 1015 London Waterloo to London Waterloo
458531+458530 I think was the 2S28 1033 Weybridge to London Waterloo

 

[Juniper Driver]

Rugby today at Twickenham saw at least two 10-car consists out:
458534+458503 I think was the 2R21 1015 London Waterloo to London Waterloo
458531+458530 I think was the 2S28 1033 Weybridge to London Waterloo

Yup I was on 530+531 (in the afternoon)...had probs with 530 as I have done with 459 units for the last three days.

Saw 536 with another /5 in clapped out yard and they were just coming out at 2050.

 

[Defiance149]

Last coach up yesterday was 67601.

Need the whole unit to test it. No point repairing a major electrical fault and then not testing it thoroughly as a unit.

As I understand it, some cars of 458501 went to Doncaster and some to Loughborough. Can anyone confirm this and what the split is please? Presume Brush would be doing the structural repairs on the DM and then send it on to Doncaster to join the rest for testing?

 

[SWT158]

Thought i make up a sheet with all the coach details etc
hope enjoy the read and if any like to add anything or drop more info in feel free
would love to add date delivery or into service maybe

 

[Juniper Driver]

Thought i make up a sheet with all the coach details etc
hope enjoy the read and if any like to add anything or drop more info in feel free
would love to add date delivery or into service maybe

That's very good,cheers.

 

[hassaanhc]

Yup I was on 530+531 (in the afternoon)...had probs with 530 as I have done with 459 units for the last three days.

Saw 536 with another /5 in clapped out yard and they were just coming out at 2050.

I had a 450 pair that day which developed door problems at Vauxhall, leading to the last coach of 8 to be locked out and lose six minutes (1022 Waterloo to Weybridge). Not a 459 which one would expect :P

What was the issue again at Feltham which saw the SDO changed to only open front 7 coaches? Was it signal sighting or something else?

 

[Juniper Driver]

I had a 450 pair that day which developed door problems at Vauxhall, leading to the last coach of 8 to be locked out and lose six minutes (1022 Waterloo to Weybridge). Not a 459 which one would expect :P

What was the issue again at Feltham which saw the SDO changed to only open front 7 coaches? Was it signal sighting or something else?

I really don't have a clue what Feltham is all about as it used to be 8 car down road.Something to do with the beacon being moved but don't know why.Still stop in the same place.

 

[WarrenTManager]

8018 or 50% of it was going onto two lorries this afternoon......

 

[hassaanhc]

I really don't have a clue what Feltham is all about as it used to be 8 car down road.Something to do with the beacon being moved but don't know why.Still stop in the same place.

Oh ok, no worries . Quite a mystery it seems .

 

[158722]

8018 or 50% of it was going onto two lorries this afternoon......

First one to move by road?

Has 458511 come back down yet?

 

[Juniper Driver]

First one to move by road?

Has 458511 come back down yet?

The last one with Class 47 conked out in North Lunnon,didn't go too well.Rebel 458

 

[WarrenTManager]

First one to move by road?

Has 458511 come back down yet?

Nope for both!

8005 went on a lorry
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Thought i make up a sheet with all the coach details etc
hope enjoy the read and if any like to add anything or drop more info in feel free
would love to add date delivery or into service maybe

8006 is still a four car. 8510 has 74405.

 

[JonathanH]

Observations tonight

458533+458504 2S64 1937 Weybridge to London Waterloo
458532+458536 2R61 2015 London Waterloo to London Waterloo
458535 2R63 2045 London Waterloo to London Waterloo
458520 2S67 2052 London Waterloo to Weybridge
458502+458531 2U67 2058 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
458534 2V65 2107 London Waterloo to London Waterloo
458530 2R65 2115 London Waterloo to London Waterloo

A full complement of 10 in service.

 

[hassaanhc]

Observations tonight

458533+458504 2S64 1937 Weybridge to London Waterloo
458532+458536 2R61 2015 London Waterloo to London Waterloo
458535 2R63 2045 London Waterloo to London Waterloo
458520 2S67 2052 London Waterloo to Weybridge
458502+458531 2U67 2058 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside
458534 2V65 2107 London Waterloo to London Waterloo
458530 2R65 2115 London Waterloo to London Waterloo

A full complement of 10 in service.

Yeah I noticed that no short formations were shown. I myself got 458520(+458534) on the 1737 Waterloo to Hounslow, good to clear another unit . I believe that the full 10 were also used yesterday (Wednesday)?

 

[WWTownEnth]

458501 Out of service - fire damaged
458502 In service
458503 In service
458504 In service
458505 Wimbledon testing
458510 Doncaster
458511 Doncaster
458018 Doncaster 26/03/15
458020 In service
458024 Doncaster
458025 Doncaster
458027 Doncaster
458530 In service
458531 In service
458532 In service
458533 In service
458534 In service
458535 In service
458536 In service

 

[Juniper Driver]

Heard crew training is at Wimbledon now which makes a bit of sense I guess.

 

[WarrenTManager]

The last one with Class 47 conked out in North Lunnon,didn't go too well.Rebel 458

That was 8025 that was stuck at Ferme Park for about five days. It was being hauled by a 66/8

8027 has been up in between times.
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458501 Out of service - fire damaged
458502 In service
458503 In service
458504 In service
458505 Wimbledon testing
458510 Doncaster
458511 Doncaster
458018 Doncaster 26/03/15
458020 In service
458024 Doncaster
458025 Doncaster
458027 Doncaster
458530 In service
458531 In service
458532 In service
458533 In service
458534 In service
458535 In service
458536 In service

8510 has been at Wimbledon since the 17th......

 

[WWTownEnth]

458501 Out of service - fire damaged
458502 In service
458503 In service
458504 In service
458505 Wimbledon testing
458510 Wimbledon testing 17/03/15
458511 Doncaster
458018 Doncaster 26/03/15
458020 In service
458024 Doncaster
458025 Doncaster
458027 Doncaster
458530 In service
458531 In service
458532 In service
458533 In service
458534 In service
458535 In service
458536 In service

 

[Juniper Driver]

504 was out with a gatex (532? not sure) and had some sort of problems with doors (or perhaps something else) on one coach with a taped cross on I take on all (4) passenger doors on 504's DMCO (could only see two doors from one side).Saw it at Vox(hall))up road (@5pm+) and all the orange lights on the side did come on but no passengers in taped up coach.

530 and 534? were together resting in clapped out yard.

 

[Kite159]

534 and another /5 (530?) Currently sitting on Woking pier

 

[Juniper Driver]

534 and another /5 (530?) Currently sitting on Woking pier

I can only think that means Woking bay although I have never heard it called that before.

 

[MCR247]

It suppose it is more like a pier than a bay

 

[TEW]

The 458/5s will be stabled at Woking until the start of service tomorrow because of engineering works today.

 

[Kite159]

The 458/5s will be stabled at Woking until the start of service tomorrow because of engineering works today.

I was suspecting that as the staines area is closed so no Woking to Waterloo stoppers via Staines (the ones normally departing P3 'bay' on a Sunday)

 

[Juniper Driver]

Thanks for the lists WWTownEnth.Got two days on them on Thurs+Fri and 159's/Desiros on Wed.

 

[Goldfish62]

The pair of diagrams which includes the 1720 Waterloo to Reading went over to 450s from last Monday, but changed back to 458/0s on Friday and is the same again today.

Seems odd that diagrams are actually reverting to 458/0 at this stage. To the casual observer the Reading line is still very much dominated by 458/0s.

 

[SWT_USER]

The pair of diagrams which includes the 1720 Waterloo to Reading went over to 450s from last Monday, but changed back to 458/0s on Friday and is the same again today.

Seems odd that diagrams are actually reverting to 458/0 at this stage. To the casual observer the Reading line is still very much dominated by 458/0s.

Still at least one 458/5 short today... And the 17:20 Waterloo to Reading is only a 4 coach 450 :cry:

 

[Goldfish62]

Still at least one 458/5 short today... And the 17:20 Waterloo to Reading is only a 4 coach 450 :cry:

I was on it. No aircon in the rear coach.

 

[Juniper Driver]

I was on it. No aircon in the rear coach.

No.I split it.The rear train was knackered.(450040) no aircon on whole 4 car unit as one set of aux's had gone down out of two.Also had a DMC set of motors not working.Had to take it to clapped out yard.I turned the lights off as passengers were getting confused on plat 19.Not sure of front unit number as I was in a bit of a hurry to split them.I had asked the guard of the arriving train (@1704) what the problem was and also found out myself by accessing the TMS although it didn't tell me about the motors on the CE DMC.

Passengers are not very tolerant at times and take it as personal although it's not meant to upset them.Train left slightly early (with permission) as it was well overcrowded and also taken off screens ten minutes before departure im told.

When I got 450040 to the yard 458015 was there.Im sure it hasn't moved in over four days as I saw it in the same spot on Friday.