Could it also be because the demand from yet another train would be too much for the electricity supply? I seem to remember this being the reason why TPE have to run (some or all of?) their 802s in diesel along the ECML.
To be fair, yes it was reasonably priced. I think I got a fairly big bowl of tomato soup for something like £2.49 - wasn’t bad either!
Imagine if we had trains where the amount of carriages could be amended through the day to suit demand?
That is definitely the reason, it’s come up a few times before. It’s why there’s an upgrade underway on the original wired section between St Pancras and Bedford
I grew up on the Southern and splitting and joining went on all over the region but it did come at big cost of extra train crew to do that so has largely died out in favour of leaving stating formations as they are all day. Also gives you a bit of resilience if the service gets perturbed and you need to hoover up extra passengers.
Probably; the supply at Long Meadow Farm (near Sundon) currently stretches 44 miles to Corby, which isn't good for much beyond Thameslink and the half-hourly EMR Connect service. No APCO zones either (yet).
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No, like single carriages coupled together so you don't have to remove or add in multiples of 5. Then again, I'm going back to a bygone era when capacity was decided based on usage and not decided by bean countersLike 5-car 810s?
When lines of spare carriages were held in large station central roads ready for fairly quick use and many more manky old coaches were held in odd sidings across the nation to be used for a few summer Saturday services and football specials, like these held in 5 now all but forgotten sidings at Dore. Old, but at least they'd link up with almost every other coach and locomotive and you could walk the length of a 14 car train.
You seem to be talking about the southern MML, but you were replying to a post about the northern ECML (though in an MML thread).
No, I was referring to the electricity capacity on the MML and merely using TPE’s 802s as an example of what I meant - ie they run in diesel mode under the wires because there isn’t enough electricity. @Bald Rick then kindly provided an answer.
Spot on.
No problem - I tend to write dissertations anyway
Seems to be heading to Newark and then shuttling back and forth to Peterborough today.
It’s been doing that all week.
Diesel.
I was talking about how does a train on the ECML actually travel to St Pancras, as there is no immediately obvious link to the non-HS1 platforms from the ECML. Turns out it's actually a sizeable detour!
The OHLE south of Bedford is currently being upgraded.
Of course. I'm well aware , but the question posed was why don't Hull trains run pan up and currently the max linespeed for pan up running is 100 between Bedford and London.
Indeed. The detour is used when there is a possession on the ECML somewhere south of Doncaster.
Would an 80x be able to change to electric power anywhere in the MML without stopping?
That I'm unaware of. Sorry bud
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The Weymouth service is just a commuter service, you can't compare it to EMR's Intercity services.
Exactly, so this is the other part of why Hull Trains are running entirely on diesel.
