Class 93 Tri-mode Loco

[RKynaston]

Be interesting to see if this goes to Leicester or to Worksop.

Be unlikely to go to Leicester as ROG dont have anything there now - its all maintained by Loram at Derby, although the contract for the 93s is separate to the rest of the ROG fleet.

 

[800001]

Be unlikely to go to Leicester as ROG dont have anything there now - its all maintained by Loram at Derby, although the contract for the 93s is separate to the rest of the ROG fleet.

I’m getting confused, thought new building at Leicester was for 93s, but it’s for 99s isn’t it!?

 

[Trainman40083]

Be interesting to see if this goes to Leicester or to Worksop.

So instead of two being towed here there and everywhere, three can be

 

[RKynaston]

I’m getting confused, thought new building at Leicester was for 93s, but it’s for 99s isn’t it!?

Yes the Leicester building is for Stadler to maintain the GBRf 99s, the first of which should be in the UK May/June time. Nothing to do with the 93s.

 

[800001]

So instead of two being towed here there and everywhere, three can be

I must of imagined seeing the locos operating under their own power………

 

[Trainman40083]

I must of imagined seeing the locos operating under their own power………

Ah well, bar a light engine in Sheffield, where I am in Derby they have always been towed...Okay on test trains in the dark twix Crewe and Carlisle, they work on their own.

 

[xotGD]

Be interesting to see if this goes to Leicester or to Worksop.

Just send it straight to Rotherham or Newport and be done with it!

 

[Trainman40083]

Sounds like 93010 is on the way to the UK too....

 

[The_Train]

Just send it straight to Rotherham or Newport and be done with it!

Exactly - they're not needed anyway when ROG have far superior traction already

 

[Suraggu]

So instead of two being towed here there and everywhere, three can be

As stated earlier in this thread, class 93’s are awaiting type approval from NR to be allowed to operate outside of their testing program.

 

[800001]

Loco left Portbury this morning by road.

 

[The_Train]

Loco left Portbury this morning by road.

010?

 

[800001]

010?

006!

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93006 currently parked up at Toddington Services on M1, issues with the trailer apparently.

 

[MDB1images]

Loco left Portbury this morning by road.

Rail Operations Group 93006

Stadler M1 Woodall Services Northbound Alleleys Heavy Haulage are renowned for moving railway rolling stock by low-loader thanks to the TV series 'Train Truckers'. On delivery to Rail Operations Group was brand new tri-mode Stadler 93006, seen at rest in Woodall Services on 21st March 2025.

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Found this photo(picture of 93006 on low loader at M1 services).

 

[BRX]

In contradiction to the suspicions of class 93 naysayers on this thread... I've seen comment elsewhere that the delays aren't anything to do with the locos themselves but their effects of their electronics on aging WCML overhead line components that should really have been replaced already, and that now those components have been replaced and the remaining 93s ought to be delivered pretty quickly now.

 

[Yorkshire09876]

In contradiction to the suspicions of class 93 naysayers on this thread... I've seen comment elsewhere that the delays aren't anything to do with the locos themselves but their effects of their electronics on aging WCML overhead line components that should really have been replaced already, and that now those components have been replaced and the remaining 93s ought to be delivered pretty quickly now.

So once they've got type approval and all of them have arrived, then what?

 

[800001]

In contradiction to the suspicions of class 93 naysayers on this thread... I've seen comment elsewhere that the delays aren't anything to do with the locos themselves but their effects of their electronics on aging WCML overhead line components that should really have been replaced already, and that now those components have been replaced and the remaining 93s ought to be delivered pretty quickly now.

Thought trains electronics normally affected signalling systems?

How’s does it affect overhead line components?

 

[ExRes]

So once they've got type approval and all of them have arrived, then what?

Presumably those in charge of Star Capital and ROG will sit down and read through the 1367 posts on this thread to find a use for them

 

[Suraggu]

Presumably those in charge of Star Capital and ROG will sit down and read through the 1367 posts on this thread to find a use for them

Even when the class 93’s are on revenue earning duties, there will still be users on this forum who will continue to be unhappy with that outcome.

 

[BlueLeanie]

Even when the class 93’s are on revenue earning duties, there will still be users on this forum who will continue to be unhappy with that outcome.

Same people who'd be first in the queue to be hauled by a 93 on some rare unelectrified freight chord between two electrified routes.

 

[Class15]

Is there any news about the 93s lately? I suspect not but you never know…

 

[Suraggu]

Is there any news about the 93s lately? I suspect not but you never know…

Awaiting type approval after WCML testing late last year.

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Same people who'd be first in the queue to be hauled by a 93 on some rare unelectrified freight chord between two electrified routes.

You hit the nail on the head with that one!

 

[LUYMun]

Been told that 93007 and 93010 have arrived at Bristol Portbury Dock this morning.

Anyone know what’s happened to 3, 4, 5, 8 and 9?

 

[800001]

Been told that 93007 and 93010 have arrived at Bristol Portbury Dock this morning.

Anyone know what’s happened to 3, 4, 5, 8 and 9?

They are still at the factory in Spain.
10 was always planned to be next.

 

[JKF]

What company takes these out by road? Is it possible to get advance notice of the moves?

 

[zwk500]

What company takes these out by road? Is it possible to get advance notice of the moves?

Allelys have certainly done some: https://breakbulk.news/allelys-deli...3-tri-mode-locomotive-to-the-uk-rail-network/
But another move was photographed with an unbranded lorry a Reid Freight lorry: https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/2023/07/12/first-stadler-class-93-arrives-in-uk-from-spain, which may or may not have been Allelys.

EDIT: Correction of freight company after better photo provided by @Incogcyclist79 below.

 

[Incogcyclist79]

Allelys have certainly done some: https://breakbulk.news/allelys-deli...3-tri-mode-locomotive-to-the-uk-rail-network/
But another move was photographed with an unbranded lorry: https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/2023/07/12/first-stadler-class-93-arrives-in-uk-from-spain, which may or may not have been Allelys.

001 left on a Reid Freight lorry whilst 2 & 6 were by Allelys.

 

[Rail Quest]

Some further news, courtesy of Rail Magazine, outlines that loaded test runs over shap will take place on 12-15 and 19-22 of May, with loads of up to 2,000 tonnes being used.

For the next stage, late-night trials from May 12-15 and May 19-22 will involve pulling freight sets, starting at 800 tonnes and building up to 2,000 tonnes during the second set of dates. These will involve alternative power modes, with electric and diesel set to be used to assess performance.

Several potential customers are “waiting to see how those further tests go” before deciding whether to run them on services. However, ROG is confident of their performance.

Source: https://www.railmagazine.com/news/f...ed-tests-hauling-up-to-2-000-tonnes-over-shap
[URL redirects to Rail Magazine website article discussing Class 93 load testing in May]

 

[furnessvale]

Some further news, courtesy of Rail Magazine, outlines that loaded test runs over shap will take place on 12-15 and 19-22 of May, with loads of up to 2,000 tonnes being used.



Source: https://www.railmagazine.com/news/f...ed-tests-hauling-up-to-2-000-tonnes-over-shap
[URL redirects to Rail Magazine website article discussing Class 93 load testing in May]

Of course, to really test them, further trials will be necessary on wet windy nights in winter, with a dead stand at Scout Green built in.

 

[Nottingham59]

loaded test runs over shap will take place on 12-15 and 19-22 of May, with loads of up to 2,000 tonnes being used

The steepest gradient over Shap seems to be 1.31% over 6.8km immediately south of the summit. A total weight of 2086t requires a tractive effort of 268kN just to keep moving at any speed uphill.

That's 92% of the 290kN theoretical maximum TE of the Class 93. Will be interesting to see how they do.

EDIT:
And rolling friction at, say, 0.1% of the total weight would increase the required tractive effort by 20kN to 288kN. One trusts that the trailing load will include another locomotive dead in tow that could act as a banker if needed.