Derailment between Hersham & Walton on Thames (04/03)

[TT-ONR-NRN]

A train has derailed between Hersham and Walton-on-Thames. There is damage to the third rail.

 

[800001]

A train has derailed between Hersham and Walton-on-Thames. There is damage to the third rail.

Hersham looks like a separate incident where there is damage to 3rd rail damaged by 2F02.

Walton-on-Thames is where 2L10 has one wheel on bogie derailed with 3rd rail displaced.

 

[hotel_mode]

Were these the first trains through after the weekend engineering blockade?

 

[staines west]

Not the first but probably still in the single digits for trains going over that section today

 

[realemil]

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Train 2L10 has reported displacing the conductor rail at Walton-on-Thames and subsequently derailed due to an object on the conductor rail. There is ‘extensive damage’ to 30ch of sleepers; the conductor rail is broken and signalling is badly damaged. All passengers have been evacuated and all including driver and guard are well albeit shaken.

This is going around. Not sure what site or where from.

SWR have a “DO NOT TRAVEL” for today (4 March) between Woking and Waterloo. Announced via Twitter, https://x.com/sw_help/status/1764568025997455590?s=46&t=OScs08OBW208ZMvP8y1gWA

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Very glad no one is hurt. I planned to get 2L10 from Farnborough to London, but decided against it as taking the next meant an extra half hour in bed! Thankful for my laziness today.

 

[Towers]

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This is going around. Not sure what site or where from.

SWR have a “DO NOT TRAVEL” for today (4 March) between Woking and Waterloo. Announced via Twitter, https://x.com/sw_help/status/1764568025997455590?s=46&t=OScs08OBW208ZMvP8y1gWA

Does this confirm that it is in fact all the same incident?

 

[Couru]

Glad everyone is ok. Not jealous of the engineers who'll be fixing this, nor the investigators who'll be finding the cause.

 

[realemil]

NR Wessex released a photo of the derailment; only the wheel. You can see this via their twitter here:

https://x.com/networkrailwssx/status/1764584204631674984?s=46&t=OScs08OBW208ZMvP8y1gWA

Early investigations show the front wheels of the train have derailed so it's likely to take us some time to get the railway open. We'll keep you updated on the repairs & timescales for reopening as soon we know more. Please keep checking with @SW_Help for the latest advice /2

 

[Nicholas Lewis]

So running UF and potentially at line speed unless there was a RSR on so could have been very nasty.

Lets see if RAIB take an interest.

 

[David Goddard]

Not the first but probably still in the single digits for trains going over that section today

RTT (yes fully aware that its not always 100% accurate) suggests that 2F02 was the first to use the Up Slow (as normally booked) and cleared this area, arriving early at Surbiton, although it did then there sit there for twenty five minutes. 2L10 was then the first to use the Up Fast. Times for the latter beyond Woking have been wiped from this source for obvious reasons.

Pleased that everyone is OK and hope the lines can be reopened soon

 

[hexagon789]

So running UF and potentially at line speed unless there was a RSR on so could have been very nasty.

Lets see if RAIB take an interest.

Was doing approx 90mph at point of derailment going by reports.

 

[brehowjevidowk]

Anyone know if the special 455 is still running all the way to Waterloo?

 

[hexagon789]

Anyone know if the special 455 is still running all the way to Waterloo?

Cancelled throughout I understand

 

[brehowjevidowk]

Cancelled throughout I understand

Ah that’s a shame although perfectly understandable. Hope everyone’s alright in regards to this incident. Have any idea when it may finally get out of Bournmouth?

 

[Omnishambles]

So running UF and potentially at line speed unless there was a RSR on so could have been very nasty.

Lets see if RAIB take an interest.

Would be surprised if RAIB aren’t all over the site with it effectively quarantined until they are finished investigating

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Ah that’s a shame although perfectly understandable. Hope everyone’s alright in regards to this incident. Have any idea when it may finally get out of Bournmouth?

I would suggest that the main focus is on clearing the derailment site and the welfare of everyone involved

 

[Nicholas Lewis]

Looks like it was first train over the Up Fast after block lifted.

 

[75A]

Looks like it was first train over the Up Fast after block lifted.

Oh dear.

 

[Somewhere]

Ah that’s a shame although perfectly understandable. Hope everyone’s alright in regards to this incident. Have any idea when it may finally get out of Bournmouth?

Think the repainted train at Bournemouth will be right at the bottom of the priority list, assuming its on the list at all

 

[43096]

Looks like it was first train over the Up Fast after block lifted.

Yes. It appears it was the second up train after 2F02. 2F02 was routed on the up slow whereas 2L10 was in the up fast.

 

[AY1975]

Pity they can't divert the Weymouths and Exeters via Addlestone and either Richmond or Hounslow, as I suspect would have happened in BR days. I expect the crews that work those services don't sign that route these days, though, and there are probably not enough spare paths available unlike under BR.

 

[SWT_USER]

Pity they can't divert the Weymouths and Exeters via Addlestone and either Richmond or Hounslow, as I suspect would have happened in BR days. I expect the crews that work those services don't sign that route these days, though, and there are probably not enough spare paths available unlike under BR.

Trains were diverted that way over the weekend so it's definitely possible. There is ample capacity on the Windsor lines these days due to SWR's service cuts.

Probably not easy to organise quickly though..

 

[swt_passenger]

Pity they can't divert the Weymouths and Exeters via Addlestone and either Richmond or Hounslow, as I suspect would have happened in BR days. I expect the crews that work those services don't sign that route these days, though, and there are probably not enough spare paths available unlike under BR.

They can do that in SWT and now SWR days, in fact it happened only yesterday, but apparently it cannot be easily arranged on the fly during the working week, because the drivers with route knowledge are not sitting around spare, they’re on their usual diagrams.

 

[Murray J]

Pity they can't divert the Weymouths and Exeters via Addlestone and either Richmond or Hounslow, as I suspect would have happened in BR days. I expect the crews that work those services don't sign that route these days, though, and there are probably not enough spare paths available unlike under BR.

It looks like some Portsmouth trains are diverting via Cobham.

 

[Deepgreen]

Quite a significant incident, this one, given the previous engineering work (whch may have nothing to do with the issue, of course) and a passeger train derailed on a plain section of main line. I was actually thinking of popping out to photograph 455868 on its outing but couldn't fit it in today - glad I didn't set off!

 

[321362]

Do you think this is all one incident or multiple

 

[AY1975]

It looks like some Portsmouth trains are diverting via Cobham.

In which case they could surely, at least in theory, send some Weymouths via Cobham and the Portsmouth Direct (and even some Exeters via that route and then via Romsey).

 

[swt_passenger]

Do you think this is all one incident or multiple

Only by reading this thread, it looks like just one incident, but has damaged a length of conductor rail over 30 ch and adjacent signalling equipment.

 

[Deepgreen]

Do you think this is all one incident or multiple

My take is that it is one, but others may have more information.