calc7
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Senior railcard holders are more likely to be shown discretion (i.e. be let off) if they have forgotten their railcard, than 16-25 railcard holders.
Discuss.
Discuss.
And your basis for this is?I would think so, but I imagine there is a fairly negative relationship between the age of passenger and likelihood to try fare evading by travelling without their railcard.
Senior railcard holders are more likely to be shown discretion (i.e. be let off) if they have forgotten their railcard, than 16-25 railcard holders.
Discuss.
Perhaps they should offer a laminated key-fob type rail card, maybe for a nominal extra charge e.g. £3, as most people wouldn't leave home without their front door key so would be very unlikely not to have their rail "card" on them.
I can't understand why men don't just keep it in their wallet, and women in their purse or handbag. A bit different for YPs as they are more likely to have a rucksack, or not carry baggage at all.
I keep mine in the same compartment of my travel bag as I keep my tickets wallet. Seems to make sense.
We are less likely to have to read Daily Mail headlines (and have our manager giving us "please explain's") about jobsworth train guards if we charge up a young person than if we charge up a granny.
Simple fact of life. If I want to make life interesting, then I can put forward some 85 year old war hero (as they will always be described) for prosecution and watch my manager having a nervous breakdown as he deals with the press.
However, I can live without watching him on the local news squirming to the cameras (tempting as it is).
He'd only get his own back on me, anyway.
Why not? Because there is no mechanism in place that allows anybody to do so. (Despite us being run by private companies)But in this situation when a swindle might be suspected, why not simply charge the passenger the uplift to non-SRC rate plus a handling charge of say £5. When the passenger gets home they can take their SRC (assuming they do have one) to any ticket office and get a refund of the uplift (but not of the handling charge - so there is a disincentive not to have your card with you).
Perhaps they should offer a laminated key-fob type rail card, maybe for a nominal extra charge e.g. £3, as most people wouldn't leave home without their front door key so would be very unlikely not to have their rail "card" on them.
I can't understand why men don't just keep it in their wallet, and women in their purse or handbag. A bit different for YPs as they are more likely to have a rucksack, or not carry baggage at all.
I keep mine in the same compartment of my travel bag as I keep my tickets wallet. Seems to make sense.
I like the first 2 paragraphs of this post. A simple policy that is consistent and accountable (i.e. its only applying the guidance as issued to TOCs' staff) leads to the minimum risk of consequential difficulties.This is why I go with a black and white view of things. If you have a rail card and it's in date, then there is no problem. If you don't, then regardless of age or entitlement you do have a problem and I'll advise passengers on how to resolve the problem.
Having bias for and against age groups serves no benefit other than to cause you problems later down the line. Sometimes following the rule to the letter and not showing discretion is the best way to go. Leads to less favouritism and different outcomes happening overall.
Saying that I've noticed that those with senior rail cards dislike being asked for it and tend to argue more. When proven to have an out of date rail card or using a freedom pass (aka not a rail card), they argue when told they will be charged an excess on the fare they have paid.
But I'm a little surprised to learn that SRC holders tend to argue more than YPRC holders (or should I say holders plus possible non-holders in both cases?). The reports I receive, including requests for help on here, are more often from YPRC (non-)holders.
Yes, your theory does seem to be a plausible explanation!Could that be explained by the higher proportion of young people and mature students who'd have internet access? Especially compared to those who are elder
Then is this also necessarily true:A nasty young person will become a nasty old person.
?A nasty old person has for long been a nasty younger person