Disruption to services - Storm Dudley & Storm Eunice

[Horizon22]

Multiple trees have been or remain in contact with the overhead lines between Paddington & Reading

 

[yorksrob]

Round here, where red and amber meet, the difference was being covered last night. Hardly blame the media for concentrating on the dramatic bits - after all, “It’s not very windy in some parts of the country” doesn’t set the pulse racing!

The way the need has been going on, your have thought the whole country was in a red zone !

 

[M&NEJ]

I generally find the BBC and the data they use very unreliable; the Met office website, on the other hand, is usually a lot more accurate.

It still beggars belief that the BBC ditched one of the world leading meterological agencies, and a British one at that, to save money.

Sorry if we're going off topic; but I have to say this is my experience of the BBC too. Totally agree!

 

[dk1]

Much of East Anglia is now quite understandably void of public transport this afternoon as predicted. Apart from the suspension of GA & EMR services First have stopped all longer distance XL services & Konectbus centred around Norwich & South Norfolk have withdrawn their entire operation. Hotels look likely to do good business this evening.

 

[Howardh]

After a relatively quiet day, the wind's picking up here in north Manchester (3.15pm) but it's gusty rather than consistently strong. Next hour or so from Bolton; not too bad!

15:19	Rochdale	15:21 2 mins late	1	Detailsfor the 15:19
15:20	Blackpool North	Delayed	4	Detailsfor the 15:20
15:22	Hazel Grove	15:34 12 mins late	3	Detailsfor the 15:22
15:26	Stalybridge	15:28 2 mins late	3	Detailsfor the 15:26
15:36	Southport	Cancelled		Detailsfor the 15:36
15:50	Blackpool North	On time	4	Detailsfor the 15:50
15:54	Manchester Airport	On time	3	Detailsfor the 15:54
16:00	Clitheroe	On time	1	Detailsfor the 16:00
16:10	Alderley Edge	Cancelled		Detailsfor the 16:10
16:14	Southport	On time	5	Detailsfor the 16:14
16:19	Rochdale	On time	1	Detailsfor the 16:19
16:21	Blackpool North	Cancelled		Details

 

[urbophile]

Well there was already an Amber warning covering all the areas that were later upgraded to red, so you can hardly say there was no warning. It was a shame that the red warning didn't go out at say 9pm, but I would expect anyone in an Amber area to check their travel on the morning, and notice the red warning. Anyone who wouldn't do this for Amber probably also wouldn't for red.

Perhaps there are not enough people still around who remember the great Michael Fish fiasco, telling everyone not to worry, the storm was heading south! Weather forecasting isn't an exact science and people would do well to remember that.

 

[AlbertBeale]

Sorry if we're going off topic; but I have to say this is my experience of the BBC too. Totally agree!

Indeed - but didn't the government tell them they had to cut costs?

 

[Kite159]

I guess the first couple services tomorrow morning on some routes in SWR will be cancelled but run as ECS in order to check the route is clear for passenger trains to run?

 

[75A]

This storm has been forecast since at least last Sunday - I do not accept the premise for your statement at all.

There will always be people who complain that 'nobody told me' when the major issue is that they are unaware of what is happening around them. It's always too easy to blame 'the authorities' for not communicating effectively if things happen and some people get caught out.

It's always someone else's fault and never mine.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[mpthomson]

Indeed - but didn't the government tell them they had to cut costs?

There are other more low hanging fruit that they could have gone after but chose not to.

 

[Howardh]

There are other more low hanging fruit that they could have gone after but chose not to.

I notice on Northern trains the displays often show a strap-line with the weather forecast, who provides that? It's only a sentence of information but it's come from somewhere!

 

[Nova1]

Chiltern have cancelled all their trains.

In the midlands seems calm though… snow hill lines running mostly normally with the usual random five minutes delays (and a couple of traincrew related cancellations)

 

[87 027]

Indeed - but didn't the government tell them they had to cut costs?

Ironic that Meteo group is a private company, founded in the Netherlands and now owned by US interests, whereas the Met Office is part of UK government (an Executive Agency of the Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy to be precise). So spend which previously generated income for central government now goes abroad...

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Tree on the line between Stockport and Manchester Piccadilly?

(Source: BBC Radio Manchester).

 

[Howardh]

Wigan > Southport blocked due to fallen tree (Parbold)

 

[Class 466]

Southeastern have announced that the Maidstone East line will stay shut for the remainder of the day. There’s 1tph running between Ashford & St Pancras and that’s it for the entire network currently. Wouldn’t be surprised if some of the metro came back to life later but the routes out into Kent probably won’t reopen today (or if they do it’ll be very disrupted by further tree based incidents).

 

[dosxuk]

Indeed - but didn't the government tell them they had to cut costs?

Yes. All parts of the BBC had to shave their budgets by 10% or more, plus more areas had to put their supplier contracts out to tender. One of those was the weather department, with said tender being won by Meteogroup. It's very unlikely that the BBC would have switched from the Met Office if they're hands hadn't been tied like that by the Government.

 

[Howardh]

Tree on the line between Stockport and Manchester Piccadilly?

(Source: BBC Radio Manchester).

Apparantly so

Update from the train driver here at Cheadle Hulme who has spoken to Stockport - “the tree is physically resting on the power lines so it’s not good news at all’

@MENnewsdesk
#StormEunice

 

[Bletchleyite]

Professional weather forecast

50+ weather layers, weather radar and satellite

www.windy.com

Thanks to whoever posted this site above...but it shows Sunday almost being as bad as today in terms of gusts, and Monday possibly being the same.

So rather than pushing people to travel on different days should the TOCs not be pushing refunds hard?

 

[Howardh]

Professional weather forecast

50+ weather layers, weather radar and satellite

www.windy.com

Thanks to whoever posted this site above...but it shows Sunday almost being as bad as today in terms of gusts, and Monday possibly being the same.

So rather than pushing people to travel on different days should the TOCs not be pushing refunds hard?

Looks bad further north Sunday/Monday https://magicseaweed.com/North-Atlantic-Surf-Chart/2/?type=wind

 

[londonmidland]

Avanti have now suspended all of their departures due to multiple incidents across the WCML. No trains to leave their origin station UFN.

 

[KingJ]

Video doing the rounds of it peeling off.

Network Rail have now posted a video of this on Twitter.

Tweet contains a video showing a roof peeling off an adjacent building and landing on the tracks at Banbury station.

 

[jon0844]

Some GN inners starting from 1630 apparently.

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

The strongest winds now appear to be over East Anglia and heading over to NL.
So the worst might be behind us.

 

[Andyh82]

Wind now getting pretty blustery here in Hebden Bridge....with gusts approaching gale force, I would think.

And it looks like nothing is now moving in the vicinity of Hebden Bridge since about 2:30pm, so presumably a tree on the line?

 

[The exile]

Perhaps there are not enough people still around who remember the great Michael Fish fiasco, telling everyone not to worry, the storm was heading south! Weather forecasting isn't an exact science and people would do well to remember that.

Strange how that clip about “no hurricane” always tends to be cut short just before the “ but it will be extremely windy though”…

 

[The Planner]

Network Rail have now posted a video of this on Twitter.

Tweet contains a video showing a roof peeling off an adjacent building and landing on the tracks at Banbury station.

That is the one, proverbial sardine can.

 

[SCDR_WMR]

Avanti have now suspended all of their departures due to multiple incidents across the WCML. No trains to leave their origin station UFN.

Probably wise given there's issues at Crewe, also via the Stoke diversion route and then south of rugby

 

[liamf656]

Not sure if it’s mentioned but EMR have stopped any new journeys south of Leicester with the 13:32 STP-SHF being the last available service

 

[D6130]

And it looks like nothing is now moving in the vicinity of Hebden Bridge since about 2:30pm, so presumably a tree on the line?

Trains do now appear to be running again through Hebden Bridge with delays of about half-an-hour.