The_Train
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Still a waste of time and money whatever effort they went to. They'd have been better getting a Sharpie (other pens are available) and just writing EMR at either end
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They can be used in multiple but only to another 156/9 or 153 due to the GA units having different information systems to the EMT units. There is a question of platform lengths as I don't think every station can take a 4 car unit. Anyway looking at the website earlier there was only 1 short form to Skegness on the Regional routes and no cancelations.Unbelievable...All the short-formed services, all the cancellations, and EMR release four units to store. These things can be multied together as far as I'm aware, so why not double them up and have two more sets that can be used to bolster the timetable?
Updated list:
Class 153:
153308 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153319 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153355 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153357 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153379 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153384 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
Class 156:
156401 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156403 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156404 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156405 - EMR outgoing livery
156406 - EMR outgoing livery
156408 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156410 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156411 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156413 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) with EMR Regional logo
156414 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) no branding
156415 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156470 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156473 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156497 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156498 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156902 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156402)
156907 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156407), Currently Stored at Barrow Hill
156909 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156409), Currently Stored at Barrow Hill
156912 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156412)
156916 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156416), Currently Stored at Barrow Hill
156917 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156417), Currently Stored at Barrow Hill
156918 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156418), Currently Stored at Barrow Hill
156919 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156419)
156922 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156422)
Class 158:
158770 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158773 - EMR outgoing livery
158774 - EMR outgoing livery
158777 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158780 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158783 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158785 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158788 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158799 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158806 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158810 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158812 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158813 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158846 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158847 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'Lincoln Castle Explorer'
158852 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158854 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'The Station Volunteer'
158856 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158857 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158858 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158862 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158863 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158864 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158865 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158866 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158889 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
Class 170:
170273 - Greater Anglia white with TfW Branding
170416 - Full EMR Regional
170417 - Full EMR Regional - 'the key worker'
170418 - Full EMR Regional
170419 - Full EMR Regional
170420 - Full EMR Regional
170503 - Full EMR Regional
170511 - Full EMR Regional
170515 - Full EMR Regional
170517 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170530 - Full EMR Regional
170531 - Full EMR Regional - Low Emissions Train branding (Ad Blue trial)
170532 - Full EMR Regional
170534 - Full EMR Regional
Class 180:
180109 - EMR outgoing livery
180110 - EMR outgoing livery
180111 - EMR outgoing livery
180113 - EMR outgoing livery
Class 222:
222001 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'The Entrepreneur Express'
222002 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Cutlers' Company'
222003 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - 'Tornado'
222004 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Children's Hospital Sheffield'
222005 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222006 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Carbon Cutter'
222007 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222008 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Derby Etches Park'
222009 - EMR outgoing livery
222010 - EMR outgoing livery
222011 - EMR outgoing livery
222012 - EMR outgoing livery
222013 - EMR outgoing livery
222014 - EMR outgoing livery
222015 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo - '175 Years of Derby's Railways 1839-2014'
222016 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222017 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222018 - EMR outgoing livery
222019 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222020 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222021 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222022 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Invest in Nottingham'
222023 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222101 - EMR outgoing livery
222102 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222103 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222104 - Full EMR intercity
Class 360:
360101 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360102 - Full EMR Connect
360103 - Blue with White stripe
360104 - Blue with White stripe
360105 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360106 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360107 - Blue with White stripe
360108 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360109 - Blue
360110 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360111 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360112 - Full EMR Connect
360113 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360114 - Blue
360115 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360116 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360117 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360118 - Blue with White stripe
360119 - Blue with EMR Connect branding
360120 - Blue
360121 - Blue with White stripe - At Eastleigh hopefully for refurbishment!
43251, 257, 274, 300, 307, 317 are withdrawn but still at Neville Hill.
43045, 060 are at Derby RTC with Colas Rail on test trains.
43290, 299 is being used on the NMT with Network Rail branding.
43050, 052, 054, 066, 076 are at Leicester (D.A.T.S).
43044, 048, 089 are now part of the 125 Group.
43046, 049, 047, 055, 058, 059, 083 are now with LSL
43043, 064, 073, 081, 082, 272, 277 are now at Burton West Yard.
43238, 295, 305, 306, 309, 310, 314, 316, 318, 319, 320 are at Ely
43465, 468, 480, 484 are with Rail Adventure at Eastleigh
43296, 308, 423, 467 are with Rail Adventure at Willesden
43102 is now with the NRM at Shildon
Mk3's:
NL01, NL03 Scrapped/8 coaches to 125 group (3 from NL01, 5 from NL03)
NL04 Scrapped/1 coach sold to LSL
NL06, NL07, NL08, NL10, NL12, NL52, NL53, NL54, various spare 'red' vehicles from different sets have been scrapped.
NL11 Scrapped/3 coaches sold to LSL, 1 coach at Leicester for DATS
NL51 is at Neville Hill
NL55, NL56, DY21, DY22, DY23 are at Ely
NL57, NL58 selected vehicles scraped, at Burton West Yard or Ely
ex EMT spares: 3 scrapped, 1 sold to LSL
shared spare buffet 40751 (between VTEC/LNER and EMT/R) is now owned by the Cambrian Heritage Railway and is at Oswestry.
Class 153's
153311, 376, 381, 383, 385 are stored at Burton West Yard
153302 is at Worksop
153310, 313, 318, 321, 326, 368, 372, 374, 382 are now with TFW (374 as spares)
43045, 060 are at Derby RTC with Colas Rail on test trains.
43290, 299 is being used on the NMT with Network Rail branding.
43050, 052, 054, 066, 076 are at Leicester (D.A.T.S).
43044, 048, 089 are now part of the 125 Group.
43046, 049, 047, 055, 058, 059, 083 are now with LSL
43043, 064, 073, 081, 082, 272, 277 are now at Burton West Yard.
43238, 295, 305, 306, 309, 310, 314, 316, 318, 319, 320 are at Ely
43465, 468, 480, 484 are with Rail Adventure at Eastleigh
43296, 308, 423, 467 are with Rail Adventure at Willesden
43102 is now with the NRM at Shildon
Mk3's:
NL01, NL03 Scrapped/8 coaches to 125 group (3 from NL01, 5 from NL03)
NL04 Scrapped/1 coach sold to LSL
NL06, NL07, NL08, NL10, NL12, NL52, NL53, NL54, various spare 'red' vehicles from different sets have been scrapped.
NL11 Scrapped/3 coaches sold to LSL, 1 coach at Leicester for DATS
NL51 is at Neville Hill
NL55, NL56, DY21, DY22, DY23 are at Ely
NL57, NL58 selected vehicles scraped, at Burton West Yard or Ely
ex EMT spares: 3 scrapped, 1 sold to LSL
shared spare buffet 40751 (between VTEC/LNER and EMT/R) is now owned by the Cambrian Heritage Railway and is at Oswestry.
Class 153's
153311, 376, 381, 383, 385 are stored at Burton West Yard
153302 is at Worksop
153310, 313, 318, 321, 326, 368, 372, 374, 382 are now with TFW (374 as spares)
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eastmidschris
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170511 is in EMR livery
156918 is also stored at Barrow Hill.
Thanks. I have updated those two.
ChrisC
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Unbelievable...
East Midlands Railway have the following statement on their website
‘We must introduce a reduced timetable which will run from Saturday 19th June until further notice. This will allow us to protect key services and routes such as those to Skegness - as well as ensuring we have sufficient capacity across the network. We will still run 85% of our normal timetable, which equates to over 460- trains per day. This reduction will help to reduce short notice cancellations and short forming which we know are immensely frustrating for our customers.’
There must be some good reason why these four 156s are being taken out of service and stored at Barrow Hill. If EMR have made these timetable cuts to avoid short forming and to protect the Skegness service, why can’t these be coupled together and be used on the Skegness route?
360121 has been confirmed as being at Eastleigh for a refurbishment - will be interesting to see how it comes out…
WillPS
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Given the EMR brand will itself be superseded by GBR in 2023, isn't it a bit daft to continue to repaint the 170s now (presuming whatever they arrive in is in good nick)?
They're due a repaint anyway as part of planned maintenance and no one knows for sure that the brand will actually be superceded. They were last painted over 10 years ago.
The ex-GA/TFW units were painted rather recently, just the ex-WMR units that were painted during the LM days back in 2008/9
XCTurbostar
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Looks like 170273 entered service with EMR today on 2A14, still in plain white.
I was wondering when it was going to enter service - is it still TfW branded?
Much appreciated, thanks!
Didn't I read somewhere that they are now Northern units that were loaned back to EMR, perhaps Northern have decided that they will need them in a few months so need to start the refurbishment process.
Yes and No, GBR will not be a big bang but a gradual introduction. They still need to pass the White Paper through Parliament, recruit staff and then decided which services will be contracted out together. Might be another 5 years before EMR services are retendered (either together or as separate)
greatvoyager
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That’s interesting, thanks for the update.
I’ll be honest, I thought 274 would’ve ended up as a demonstrator/general loco with Porterbrook seeing as their colours match close to EMRs and it just received a repaint…
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Demonstrator of what, exactly?!
In any case Porterbrook’s colour isn’t purple and hasn’t been for some years.
156902 at Wolverton has been renumbered back to 156402 on the system. I suspect that indicates it is going to Northern after it comes out. From memory the 1569xx sets have TrainFX PIS from their Anglia days, which I think is Northern's low budget system of choice - so no need for the 1569xx numbering to distinguish them.
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py_megapixel
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TrainFX is indeed Northern's chosen system (and 'low budget' doesn't even come close to describing how awful it is!)
However, I thought GA fitted the Turbostar-style PIS - not sure who manufactures it - to their 156s. Or did they do some with one and some with the other?
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You may be right on the system GA fitted. If so, presumably Northern are modifying them to be compatible with their native fleet, hence renumbering back to 1564xx.
Having same PA fitted as standard EMR fleet
Ethan1852
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I can confirm that a 222 has had a suspected engine fire causing an evacuation of Leicester station. I cannot find which 222 it was. I think it is quite remarkable that it wasn't a 180.
www.leicestermercury.co.uk
Leicester Railway Station 'evacuated' as fire causes delays on train network
There were delays of up to 50 minutes on services
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I can confirm that a 222 has had a suspected engine fire causing an evacuation of Leicester station. I cannot find which 222 it was. I think it is quite remarkable that it wasn't a 180.
Leicester Railway Station 'evacuated' as fire causes delays on train network
There were delays of up to 50 minutes on services
222019. 7 days ago one went up at Loughborough too.
Killingworth
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"Went up"is rather an exaggeration. Fire brigade report on that says "Upon arrival smoke was reported issuing from train although no flames visible. Incident was confirmed as a small fire located under train, 1 Hose Reel Jet used to extinguish fire."
The_Train
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Question now is, is this for a return to service with EMR or to be prepped for transfer to Northern?
That is true, but haven’t they been pencilled in for a refurb at Wolverton? Or is that still being arranged?
Given the government’s decision for Monday I can imagine they’ll return to service with EMR.
The_Train
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I'd be amazed if it is anything other than a return to service with EMR, can't see any real need to move back to Etches otherwise. The timing also suggests it (in my humble opinion of course) as it gives them a few days to ready for a return to service on Monday as you say!
Edit: In terms of refurbs at Wolverton, I have no knowledge of that so can't help with that question sorry
100% agree with you there - pretty sure if it was a movement to Northern they would’ve gone to Wolverton first for a refurb. Passenger numbers are also picking up too so makes no sense to release them now with no replacements.
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