East Midlands Railway livery and station branding

[James Kevill]

I think you will be! Normally EMR normally 5Z headcodes for training runs.


According to my list on the previous page 7 as off last week. Normally there is a swap at the weekend so the 8th might be going back shortly.

Ok Cheers

Thank you both. Will update the list. @Hairy Bear Love the description of the livery!

 

[Ethan1852]

https://twitter.com/HiPa_IC125_/status/1296759442873233409

 

[jamesnotts86]

People flap so much about these things.

I wouldn’t say that my comment or that of others would be considered as ‘flapping’ but hey ho.

EMT did adopt a relatively neutral scheme and I understand the points about a corporate font but from a business perspective I would have thought EMR would have been quicker to introduce a network-wide identity. Just seems like a rather lacklustre approach.

 

[LowLevel]

I wouldn’t say that my comment or that of others would be considered as ‘flapping’ but hey ho.

EMT did adopt a relatively neutral scheme and I understand the points about a corporate font but from a business perspective I would have thought EMR would have been quicker to introduce a network-wide identity. Just seems like a rather lacklustre approach.

As I pointed out an approach that is actually the norm rather than an exception on the railway.

 

[Ethan1852]

222011 is in outgoing livery. https://twitter.com/mattymidland/status/1296800611057401860

 

[43055]

222011 is in outgoing livery. https://twitter.com/mattymidland/status/1296800611057401860

Updated the list on page 22. Thank you.

 

[Ethan1852]

222012 is in outgoing livery https://twitter.com/HiPa_IC125_/status/1298208214270578689

222004 is in outgoing livery https://twitter.com/mole259/status/1298624138341502982

 

[43055]

Updated list:

Mostly more purple 222's but red HST NL58 has come out of Barrow Hill to Neville Hill today. Looking at the tweet above regarding 222004 it looks like the first of the 180's is prepped to be put into the outgoing livery.

Class 43 HST power cars:
43047 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43048 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43049 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43058 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded
43073 - Full EMT intercity blue/white, EMR branded

43044, 045, 059 are Withdrawn but still at Neville Hill
43043, 064, 081, 082 are at Long Marston
43050, 060 are at Derby RTC - Possibly with Colas Rail
43052, 054, 066 are at Leicester (D.A.T.S)
43076, 089 are at Leicester - Not sure if these are with D.A.T.S as well.
43046, 055, 083 are now with LSL

43238 - LNER red, EMR branding (in service)
43251 - LNER red, EMR branding (currently at Gascoigne Wood)
43257 - LNER red, EMR branding (in service)
43272 - LNER red, EMR branding (currently at Barrow Hill)
43274 - LNER red, EMR branding (currently at Neville Hill)
43277 - LNER red, EMR branding (currently at Barrow Hill)
43290 - LNER red, EMR branding (currently at Gascoigne Wood)
43295 - LNER red, EMR branding (in service)
43296 - LNER red, EMR branding (in service)
43299 - LNER red, EMR branding (currently at Neville Hill)
43302 - LNER red, EMR branding (currently at Neville Hill)
43305 - LNER red, EMR branding (in service)
43306 - LNER red, EMR branding (currently at Gascoigne Wood)
43307 - LNER red, EMR branding (in service)
43308 - LNER red, EMR branding (currently at Gascoigne Wood)
43309 - LNER red, EMR branding (in service)
43310 - LNER red, EMR branding (in service)
43314 - LNER red, EMR branding (currently at Neville Hill)
43316 - LNER red, EMR branding (in service)
43317 - LNER red, EMR branding (in service)
43318 - LNER red, EMR branding (in service)
43319 - LNER red, EMR branding (in service)
43320 - LNER red, EMR branding (in service)

43423 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43465 - Plain blue, EMR branded (currently at Barrow Hill)
43467 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43468 - Plain blue, EMR branded (currently at Barrow Hill)
43480 - Plain blue, EMR branded
43484 - Plain blue, EMR branded

Class 153:
153308 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153311 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153319 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153355 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153357 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153376 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153379 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153381 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153383 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153384 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
153385 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo

153302, 318, 368, 372, 374, 382 are withdrawn and stored at Ely

Class 156:
156401 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156403 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156404 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156405 - EMR outgoing livery
156406 - White with purple doors, no branding
156408 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156410 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156411 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156413 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) with EMR Regional logo
156414 - EMT regional blue (no red/orange EMT cab ends) no branding
156415 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156470 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156473 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156497 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156498 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156902 - White with Red doors (ex 156402)
156907 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156407)
156909 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156409)
156912 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156412)
156916 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156416)
156917 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156417)
156918 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156418)
156919 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156419)
156922 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156422)

Class 158:
158770 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158773 - EMR outgoing livery
158774 - White base with Orange doors, no branding
158777 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158780 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158783 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158785 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158788 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158799 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158806 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158810 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158812 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158813 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158846 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158847 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158852 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158854 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158856 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158857 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158858 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158862 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158863 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158864 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158865 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158866 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158889 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo

Class 170:
170416 - Full EMR Regional (currently at Eastcroft depot)
170417 - Full EMR Regional (currently at Tyseley)
170418 - Scot Rail Blue, no branding (currently in Scotland)
170419 - Scot Rail Blue, no branding (currently at Crofton Depot)
170420 - Full EMR Regional (currently at Etches Park depot)

Class 180:
180109 - Hull Trains blue, no branding (Currently at Etches Park)
180110 - Hull Trains blue, no branding (Currently at Etches Park)
180111 - Hull Trains blue, no branding (Currently at Etches Park)
180113 - Hull Trains blue, no branding (Currently at Etches Park)

Class 222:
222001 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222002 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222003 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222004 - EMR outgoing livery
222005 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222006 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo

222007 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222008 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222009 - EMR outgoing livery
222010 - EMR outgoing livery
222011 - EMR outgoing livery
222012 - EMR outgoing livery
222013 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222014 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222015 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222016 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222017 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222018 - EMR outgoing livery
222019 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222020 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222021 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222022 - EMR outgoing livery
222023 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo

222101 - EMR outgoing livery
222102 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222103 - EMT intercity white with EMR Intercity logo
222104 - Full EMR intercity

Class 360 (only showing units which have 110mph modifications)
360102 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360105 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360106 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360107 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360108 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360111 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360112 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360114 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360118 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (returned to Anglia)
360121 - Blue with Greater Anglia Fleet names (at Northampton)


Stations:
Hubbert's Bridge - New signage on the new platform

 

[43 302]

43044 has been stripped for spares, 43045 is emergency spare, (highly unlikely to be used) 43089 is being stored temporarily until 43048 is released from EMR at which point both will move to 125 group.

 

[Ethan1852]

https://twitter.com/JoshR319/status/1298677958463434760 as you can see in this tweet the outgoing livery has been rushed and is not good quality at all.

 

[raetiamann]

Comments coming out about the standard of the livery. Already bits coming off and stagecoath patches showing through.

 

[py_megapixel]

Comments coming out about the standard of the livery. Already bits coming off and stagecoath patches showing through.

My suspicion is that it's been done "on the cheap"
After all, if you're applying a new livery to rolling stock which will only be in service for a couple of years, you aren't going to spend the extra to get really high quality vinyls (or indeed, in this case, to vinyl the whole unit!)

 

[OTRail]

Comments coming out about the standard of the livery. Already bits coming off and stagecoath patches showing through.

The same has been seen on the WMR units in the outgoing livery - must be Abellio’s way of cutting corners...

 

[Domh245]

Based on the tweeted picture showing the stagecoach livery coming through, it doesn't look like vinyl failure so much as paint being worn off. Presumably the front (at least, yellow section and lower valance) are painted rather than vinyled (vinyling such complex geometry a single colour makes zero sense!) but the prep job (or paint used) was lacking

 

[Hairy Bear]

The lower panels and doors are painted a shade of 'beetroot ' which nearly matches the vinyl colour.
Strange it took so short a time to rub off .

 

[43096]

The lower panels and doors are painted a shade of 'beetroot ' which nearly matches the vinyl colour.
Strange it took so short a time to rub off .

They were painted in two pack paint when they were painted by EMT. Trying to paint over the top of two pack without a proper prep means that the paint often doesn’t “take” properly.

 

[XCTurbostar]

Just a quick one on the Red Powercars.. it seems very apparent to me that not one of the powercars are consistent in livery. Some are missing the front/side stickers, one is missing all stickers, some have two lights, some have three.. has this HST fleet become a scab fleet cobbled together?

 

[Ethan1852]

Looks like one of the 170s might have visited Brush https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C25922/2020-08-29/detailed

EDIT - It could actually be a 170 or a 158. This service usually runs as required but today this shows it was activated, could this be a sign of a refurbishment of the interiors of the 170s?

 

[43055]

Looks like one of the 170s might have visited Brush https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C25922/2020-08-29/detailed

EDIT - It could actually be a 170 or a 158. This service usually runs as required but today this shows it was activated, could this be a sign of a refurbishment of the interiors of the 170s?

I'm pretty sure none of the 170s have gone into brush. In the past wasn't that the path for 15x comeing back from PRM mods?

 

[OTRail]

I'm pretty sure none of the 170s have gone into brush. In the past wasn't that the path for 15x comeing back from PRM mods?

I’m pretty sure all the 15x EMR are retaining post-2020 have all been done already?

 

[43055]

I’m pretty sure all the 15x EMR are retaining post-2020 have all been done already?

Yes they are all done.

 

[Ethan1852]

180110 looks like it is getting the outgoing livery. https://twitter.com/HiPa_IC125_/status/1299774346391674887 work has officialy started on its new livery.

222022 is in outgoing livery https://twitter.com/JedKendray/status/1300052134902325250

43059 has been withdrawn from service https://twitter.com/HiPa_IC125_/status/1300507878533537806

 

[OTRail]

Not sure if it’s been noted already but 222009 is in the outgoing livery.

 

[Murray J]

180110 is on test today, as 5Z80.

 

[Ethan1852]

Realtime Trains - 5Z80 1130 Etches Park Sdgs to Etches Park Sdgs

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[43055]

180110 looks like it is getting the outgoing livery. https://twitter.com/HiPa_IC125_/status/1299774346391674887 work has officialy started on its new livery.

222022 is in outgoing livery https://twitter.com/JedKendray/status/1300052134902325250

43059 has been withdrawn from service https://twitter.com/HiPa_IC125_/status/1300507878533537806

Not sure if it’s been noted already but 222009 is in the outgoing livery.

Thank you for the updates. I have edited the list up the page to reflect this. I have not updated 180110 for now but will do once it is fully completed in the outgoing livery.

180110 is on test today, as 5Z80.

Realtime Trains - 5Z80 1130 Etches Park Sdgs to Etches Park Sdgs

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www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Could be out again tomorrow and Friday?

Tomorrow - same path:

Realtime Trains - 5Z80 1130 Etches Park Sdgs to Etches Park Sdgs

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Friday - two trips to Leicester:

Realtime Trains - 5Z80 0854 Etches Park Sdgs to Etches Park Sdgs

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www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Realtime Trains - 5Z81 1202½ Etches Park Sdgs to Etches Park Sdgs

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[Bayum]

What is going to be ‘the livery’ for EMT? All over maroon or (in my opinion) the sleeker, better maroon and silver?

 

[43055]

What is going to be ‘the livery’ for EMT? All over maroon or (in my opinion) the sleeker, better maroon and silver?

The all over purple is the full livery and is being applied to trains that are staying in the fleet (only the 170s so far along with 222104). The livery with purple at each end of the train (better one) is only temporary for trains that are eventually leaving the fleet.

 

[221101 Voyager]

What is going to be ‘the livery’ for EMT? All over maroon or (in my opinion) the sleeker, better maroon and silver?

By the way, since last August the TOC is now EMR.

On it's outgoing fleet eg: 156, 158, 180, 222 the livery will be purple and silver.

The new fleet EMR will be keeping long term eg 170, 360 & 810 will be all over purple.

Hope this helps.

 

[Ryry]

The state most of the ex ga 156s are in are shocking. Regardless whether they are planning on getting rid of them in the future the overall cleanliness and appearance is appalling . Not away to invite and impress commuters