ECML Class 90 diagrams

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  1. Railperf

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    Does anyone know which - if any - diagrams are likely to be class 90 hauled this weekend on the ECML?

    thanks in advance
     
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  3. clagmonster

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    Decent bets are 06:30 Kings Cross - Leeds and the Newark shorts on Saturday. Could also turn up on other Leeds trains.

    Sunday, 16:35 Kings Cross - Leeds and 12:22 Kings Cross - Newcastle are decent bets. Sometimes an earlier Leeds turn can drop, seemingly less common is the 17:35.
     
  4. neilboo

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    When I have been in Leeds and seen them (Saturdays), they've both been on the 19:16 KX
     
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    90018 working the following today:

    1A19 0916 Leeds to Kings Cross
    1B84 1206 Kings Cross to Newark
    1B85 1356 Newark to Kings Cross
    1D22 1633 Kings Cross to Leeds
    1A49 1916 Leeds to Kings Cross
     
  6. Railperf

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    Any 90's out today?
     
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    90039

    1B85 1354 Newark to Kings Cross
    1B88 1606 Kings Cross to Newark
    1B89 1754 Newark to Kings Cross
     
  8. Railperf

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    How long are the 90's expected to remain on these diagrams?
     
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    90039 on the usual diagram...slippery when wet !!!
     
  10. rg177

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    90029 allocated as follows today

    1G21 0945 Peterborough to Kings Cross
    1F23 1206 Kings Cross to Peterborough
    1G23 1320 Peterborough to Kings Cross
    1F24 1603 Kings Cross to Peterborough
    1G24 1720 Peterborough to Kings Cross
     
  11. 59CosG95

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    A note: The only 90s usable on the ECML are those fitted with DRA.
    The DB Cargo examples are:
    90018
    90019
    90020
    90029
    90034
    90036
    90039.
    AIUI, there are no plans to fit any further 90s with DRA equipment for ECML services.
     
  12. coxy

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    Travelling home from York yesterday and I saw 90019 departing on a northbound service around 14:35. Looking at RTT is may well have been working 1N16 12:22 Kings Cross to Newcastle
     
  13. Railperf

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    90019 struggling with wheelslip on the 1B84 1206 KGX to NNG.

     
  14. noddingdonkey

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    By DRA are you referring to the Driver's Reminder Appliance? I hadn't realised it wasn't mandatory for freight locos.
     
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    Given that it's intended to prevent 'ding ding and away' scenarios, which can only occur on bell/buzzer-fitted passenger services with the driver looking backwards at the platform while moving off, there would be no point on fitting it to freight trains.
     
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    Does anyone know the diagrams the ECML 90s are working today (Tuesday 8th January 2019)?

    Thanks in advance,

    Nic
     
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    90029

    1A19 0916 Leeds to Kings Cross
    1B84 1206 Kings Cross to Newark
    1B85 1354 Newark to Kings Cross
    1B88 1606 Kings Cross to Newark
    1B89 1754 Newark to Kings Cross

    90036

    1A22 1015 Leeds to Kings Cross
    1B86 1406 Kings Cross to Newark
    1B87 1556 Newark to Kings Cross
     
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    Many thanks sir!
     
  19. DarloRich

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    Is there 2 on hire now?
     
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    There have always been up to two on hire, from a pool of DRA-equipped locos. While all the 90s can work push-pull, they need a DRA (Driver Reminder Alarm IIRC) to work Mk4 passenger trains. 90018, 90019, 90020, 90029, 90034, 90036 and 90039 have all worked VTEC/LNER push-pulls at various points. Locos cycle on and off when they're needed for other freight work, or when an exam is due.
     
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    ok - thanks for the info - i didn't know there were two in use.
     
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    I'm on the 09:16 off Leeds tomorrow morning. Always nice to get a Skoda on a work trip!

    The longer the Azumas are delayed, the longer the 90s stay on the East Coast.
     
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    90029 shoving the 09:16 off Leeds this morning - 9 minute delay due to problem with the brakes - wheels now turning...
     
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    90036 on the 07:33 of KX just passed us at Wakey.

    Meanwhile we are stuck behind the all-shacks to Doncaster :frown:
     
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    90028, spotless after being named "Sir William McAlpine" at York NRM yesterday, worked the 12:25 Newcastle - Kings Cross today.

    Didn't take it long to drop onto East Coast passenger work!
     
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    Had it just now on the 16.22 Kings Cross-Leeds (between Grantham and Retford) - you could still see your reflection in the Verkehrsrot!
    No less than 3 90s were out to play on LNER services, with 90029 and 90036 also being at large.
    (90037, which had a brief spell in the WEDC pool (for locos hired to LNER), was on test out of Crewe on Monday - rumours are that it's next in line for several cans of red paint)
     
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    Blimey, that's a productive day for class 90s on LNER services: I thought a 90 on a Newcastle run was unusual, didn't realise that was on top of the two Leeds diagrams!

    Sounds like DB are beginning to make major inroads into repainting the 90 fleet.
     
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    Indeed; of their active fleet, 90020, 90035, 90037 & 90039 are the only ones remaining in EWS; 90024 obviously still has its Malcolm livery, and 90034 is still in ex-DRS plain blue (albeit with DB logos).
    The stored fleet (all at Crewe IEMD) are as follows:
    • 90017 - EWS, stored in the WQBA pool. Stored since 1/11/2006 due to an electrical fault.
    • 90021 - First ScotRail, stored in the WQAB pool. Stored pending heavy maintenance repairs/attention.
    • 90022 "Freightconnection" - Railfreight Grey w/ EWS logos, stored in the WQBA pool. Stored since 22/9/2006 due to requiring a C-exam.
    • 90023 - EWS, stored in the WQBA pool. Stored since 29/7/2005 due to general wear & tear.
    • 90025 - RfD Grey, stored in the WQBA pool. Stored since 20/1/2004 due to a "shopping decision" - whatever that means.
    • 90026 - EWS, stored in the WQAB pool. Assuming stored due to heavy maintenance repairs pending.
    • 90027 "Allerton T&RSMD" - RfD Grey, stored in the WQBA pool. Stored since 26/8/2007 due to requiring new wheelsets.
    • 90030 - EWS, stored in the WQBA pool. Stored since 3/1/2006 due to general wear & tear.
    • 90031 "The Railway Children Partnership" - EWS, stored in the WQBA pool. Stored since 11/12/2007 due to requiring new wheelsets.
    • 90032 - EWS, stored in the WQBA pool. Stored since 9/2/2004 due to requiring new wheelsets.
    • 90033 - RfD Int'l Grey/Dark Blue, stored in the WQBA pool. Stored since 13/4/2005 due to a "shopping decision".
    • 90038 - RfD Int'l Grey/Dark Blue, stored in the WQBA pool. Stored since 29/7/2005 due to a "shopping decision".
    All info obtained from the Class 90 Electric Loco Group - www.class90electriclocogroup.co.uk
     
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    Thanks for that, I was aware that a few had been repainted, it's good to get an update on progress with the operational fleet.
    Nice to have a summary of how the stored fleet is fairing, too.
     
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    I am hearing that 90 037 has been put back in the LNER pool and has spent the past week at Bounds Green being made ready...?
     
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    Indeed, it's the hot spare today at Bounds Green.
     

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