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InTheEastMids

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Has work started on the 360s? I haven't seen any discussion of Connect stock in this thread, only Regional. Apologies if I've missed it.
 

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No, 360’s haven’t been touched yet. Haven’t heard a confirmed date for the first one to leave. Probably haven’t got enough in working order for it to leave yet! :lol:
 

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No, 360’s haven’t been touched yet. Haven’t heard a confirmed date for the first one to leave. Probably haven’t got enough in working order for it to leave yet! :lol:
Thanks. Will the work be done at Crewe? If so, I am thinking that there are 41 Regional sets still to do, and then 21 Connect sets, so 62 in total. 170503 has taken 2 months.
I'm assuming there'll be a significant acceleration in progress, because at the current rate, I make it 124 months, or Jul 2035 before the programme is complete o_O
 

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Thanks. Will the work be done at Crewe? If so, I am thinking that there are 41 Regional sets still to do, and then 21 Connect sets, so 62 in total. 170503 has taken 2 months.
I'm assuming there'll be a significant acceleration in progress, because at the current rate, I make it 124 months, or Jul 2035 before the programme is complete o_O
To some extent, it’ll be like having to carry out a repetitive task - the first time you do it, you go slowly whilst you get used to it, but then you speed up as you get through the process and gain familiarity.

But hopefully all the pain and wait will be worth it :)
 

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To some extent, it’ll be like having to carry out a repetitive task - the first time you do it, you go slowly whilst you get used to it, but then you speed up as you get through the process and gain familiarity.

But hopefully all the pain and wait will be worth it :)
Exactly this. There will be some teething issues when doing the first unit or two but once ironed out the rest of the fleet can be done much quicker

In regards to the 360s, last I heard there was some sort of issue with the PIS systems that need fixing before work can commence. That's all I know, but from the sounds of it, it's more an issue that could come up that needs avoiding. Cannot confirm though

I don't think it's actually been said where the 360s are being refurbished yet
 

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360’s will be done at Siemens Kings Heath Northampton. When I know more regarding timescale I’ll let you know but as yet - nothing!
 

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170503 pretty much ready to go now. A few bits here and there but on a whole it's looking good. Fingers crossed it goes out this weekend
 

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170503 pretty much ready to go now. A few bits here and there but on a whole it's looking good. Fingers crossed it goes out this weekend
Are the ceilings getting clean now? I recall it being criticised up thread that they were not being tackled as part of the job.
 

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Are the ceilings getting clean now? I recall it being criticised up thread that they were not being tackled as part of the job.
I didn't clean them yesterday because they guys had the panels open to conduct some testing however I imagine they will get cleaned because they need it. When cleaning the walls you can tell they have been used for all those years with the dirty markings on them.
 

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I hope you have breathing masks on - there’s black mould on the ceilings of the 222’s!
 

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I didn't clean them yesterday because they guys had the panels open to conduct some testing however I imagine they will get cleaned because they need it. When cleaning the walls you can tell they have been used for all those years with the dirty markings on them.
Thanks for that post!
 

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Also I don't think 170503 will be leaving this weekend because I've been told it's got some "snags" that have been found.
 

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A new EMR/EMT liveried 158 has appeared at Bristol Barton Hill (presumably the next for a refurb), does anyone know which one it is please?
 

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Well, just got on a 3 carriage 175 on the Liverpool - Nottingham service.

This is supposed to be better than a 4 carriage 158 how exactly ?

175's aren't an adequate replacement.
 

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170420 in fact. Maybe there was only one two car Class 158 available and someone thought 3 car is better than 2.
I believe 1R70 and 1L16 are booked to be 170s - albeit as a four car (2x2) rather than three. Looking back this week it’s been a four car on two days, a five car on one, and a three car today.
 

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There are (at least) 26 Regional units stopped today undergoing repair or failed (possibly more since that tally). That is the equivalent to more than the whole class 158 fleet being out of service carriage wise as some are 3 car 170s. Fleet state is dire.
 

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There are (at least) 26 Regional units stopped today undergoing repair or failed (possibly more since that tally). That is the equivalent to more than the whole class 158 fleet being out of service carriage wise as some are 3 car 170s. Fleet state is dire.
Yes, I have heard several units are awaiting parts. Then we have the ones going through full interior refurbishment. In the case of Class 158s , a repaint into EMR livery.
 

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There are (at least) 26 Regional units stopped today undergoing repair or failed (possibly more since that tally). That is the equivalent to more than the whole class 158 fleet being out of service carriage wise as some are 3 car 170s. Fleet state is dire.

That's shocking, why is the fleet in such a state?
 

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