Islineclear3_1
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That IS good news and applaudable
Now let's hope this information filters down to the police
Now let's hope this information filters down to the police
Sounds like somebody was listening - good news:
UK coronavirus rules relaxed for people with autism and learning disabilities
Policy updated after lawyers challenge ‘discriminatory’ lockdown measureswww.theguardian.com
Thankfully, the government is displaying more disability awareness than is present from some on this forum.
I'm chomping at the bit to go pick up some vintage computers I've volunteered to repair. I was due to collect them in person five weeks ago, but I called things off as I started showing symptoms, and then the lockdown started. It's annoying, as repairing them would be perfect hobby work for me to do while stuck at home!Why is it such an issue? Surely the four reasons cover most reasons why anyone *needs* to get anywhere?
Is using a courier a viable option?I'm chomping at the bit to go pick up some vintage computers I've volunteered to repair. I was due to collect them in person five weeks ago, but I called things off as I started showing symptoms, and then the lockdown started. It's annoying, as repairing them would be perfect hobby work for me to do while stuck at home!
While the risk is low (drive fifty miles, move several metal boxes from one car boot to another, drive home), and I might be able to shenaneganise the journey within the restrictions for Wales (travelling for volunteer work, which can't be done at home), it doesn't really fit the spirit of them. Plus, she-who-must-be-obeyed has put the kibosh on the whole idea for the time being.
As a result, I'm really looking forward to any change in the restrictions, to see if we agree that I can go and fetch them. Maybe in another week or two...
(Everyday life, on the other hand, is perfectly manageable for our family for now. No big issues there.)
Funnily enough I saw something similar yesterday on my daily exercise. A bloke initially walking some distance past 2 cyclists sitting down taking a break walked right up to them to tell them off about social distancing....
The madness is starting to set in...
A elderly friend has had an anonymous letter posted through her door saying that if she continues to receive visitors she’ll be reported to the Police. The “visitors” are nurses from the local
GP surgery...
It could be, but I suspect not. I don't know exactly how many items I've got to pick up: it's four computers, but I don't know if they've all got keyboards, mice, crt monitors, etc, and there may be some boxes of software too. It'd be quite a hassle for my contact to box up, and the "risk" that I'd be avoiding would still be present for the couriers sent to collect and deliver the boxes.Is using a courier a viable option?
Can't see how this is any better for reducing virus spread or pressure on NHS than going himself.Is using a courier a viable option?
On what grounds (provided they are out and about with a "reasonable excuse")?Therefore, from an enforcement perspective, anyone out and about with a cough might be ordered to go home and self isolate, regardless of the police officer's ability to diagnose different types of cough.
Well there's a good typo: if we raised a Monet, we'd have plenty of money!Plus, there's the issue that I'm fixing these so they can be sold to raise monet for a computer software preservation fund.
It depends on what sort of 'social relationship' you have with your doorframe, (or anybody else's).Haha!
Added benefit: When you're cycling, passing cars will definitely keep a safe distance from you (from the POV of accidents).
But do those social distancing rules apply to the sides of your front door as well?
A elderly friend has had an anonymous letter posted through her door saying that if she continues to receive visitors she’ll be reported to the Police. The “visitors” are nurses from the local
GP surgery...
The messaging needs to be simple so that it lodges in the public’s head.
or "Get Brexit Done", no maybe not.Don't know about anyone else, I'm not complying because of fear, I'm complying because of altruism, mostly. I suppose you could call that "fear of being responsible for someone else getting ill" but it's not the sort of fear in question in the above post. I'm struggling to get scared of catching it because I'm relatively low-risk, and because I think I've already had it.
"See it, say it, sorted"?
I agree I think.Don't know about anyone else, I'm not complying because of fear, I'm complying because of altruism, mostly. I suppose you could call that "fear of being responsible for someone else getting ill" but it's not the sort of fear in question in the above post. I'm struggling to get scared of catching it because I'm relatively low-risk, and because I think I've already had it.
"See it, say it, sorted"?
The messaging needs to be simple so that it lodges in the public’s head.
Don't know about anyone else, I'm not complying because of fear, I'm complying because of altruism, mostly. I suppose you could call that "fear of being responsible for someone else getting ill" but it's not the sort of fear in question in the above post. I'm struggling to get scared of catching it because I'm relatively low-risk, and because I think I've already had it.
"See it, say it, sorted"?
or "Get Brexit Done", no maybe not.
Fines as a policy seems the best option, prison would be too harsh and community service is hardly practical at the moment. The problem is they seem rather pathetic fines, £60 reduced to £30 if paid quickly is the sort of sanction you would expect for dropping a crisp packet. Many less altruistic people would be happy to chance it on that basis.Also, enforcement by fines does not convince me.
I wish I could believe that much of the country is the same as you, however scratch that surface and you quickly come to find that altruism quickly turns to self-preservation. Maybe not so much on here, but on social media it is rife.
The problem is they seem rather pathetic fines, £60 reduced to £30 if paid quickly is the sort of sanction you would expect for dropping a crisp packet.
That of course is the penalty for a first offence it can escalate to nearly £1,000 for repeat offenders. I'm not sure asking someone to pay £1,000 for a first offence (particularly where that offence might be the result of a mistake about what is a reasonable excuse) would be particularly fair!
But not in every juristiction. I recall that Wales' legislation just went with a fixed ₤60 sum. Some have been commenting that it's not much of a deterrent to a family contemplating relocating to their second home over Easter, when they'd probably spend that much on petrol to get here.That of course is the penalty for a first offence it can escalate to nearly £1,000 for repeat offenders. I'm not sure asking someone to pay £1,000 for a first offence (particularly where that offence might be the result of a mistake about what is a reasonable excuse) would be particularly fair
If caught they would get sent home. If they refused then that is another offence to be charged for.But not in every juristiction. I recall that Wales' legislation just went with a fixed ₤60 sum. Some have been commenting that it's not much of a deterrent to a family contemplating relocating to their second home over Easter, when they'd probably spend that much on petrol to get here.
But not in every juristiction. I recall that Wales' legislation just went with a fixed ₤60 sum. Some have been commenting that it's not much of a deterrent to a family contemplating relocating to their second home over Easter, when they'd probably spend that much on petrol to get here.
You know I really wish someone would have ensured that the legislation, in whatever form, was the same amongst the four nations to avoid even further confusion like this! Thanks for pointing that out as I wasn't aware of this difference between England and Wales.
Yes I knew about that one (indeed I think it was our Welsh correspondent @krus_aragon that pointed that one out to me as well! ) but obviously there were more than I had realised.There are quite a few, e.g. Wales has defined "one exercise per day" in law and England hasn't.
But not in every juristiction. I recall that Wales' legislation just went with a fixed ₤60 sum. Some have been commenting that it's not much of a deterrent to a family contemplating relocating to their second home over Easter, when they'd probably spend that much on petrol to get here.
Having checked my facts, the £60 increases to £120 for the second offence, but doesn't escalate further (as it can in England).You know I really wish someone would have ensured that the legislation, in whatever form, was the same amongst the four nations to avoid even further confusion like this! Thanks for pointing that out as I wasn't aware of this difference between England and Wales.
New police guidelines issued today of what constitutes a reasonable excuse for being out of one's home. They seem quite sensible and I hope that certain overzealous police forces take note.