Harsh. That will have been planned well upfront...Unfortunately, and with the usual sense of UK railway timing, there's bus replacement services between Salisbury and Gillingham and Axminster and Exeter.
Harsh. That will have been planned well upfront...Unfortunately, and with the usual sense of UK railway timing, there's bus replacement services between Salisbury and Gillingham and Axminster and Exeter.
The LNER Twitter team are a bit fair weather. Fine in normal times, but become very defensive when things go wrong or they get criticised for LNER's more interesting policy decisions.Our friends on the LNER Twitter feed tried to imply that information from this forum might not be correct. This is a well respected forum with many knowledgeable contributors and that was pointed out. Why LNER could not have been open and honest with customers is beyond me. It is fair to suggest that they knew full well what was going on but for reasons unknown did not wish to convey that information to fare paying customers. There was nothing wrong with saying that the trains were being inspected and would come back into service when safe to do so. Customers can handle such information.
It's not uncommon. Norway had to withdraw an entire new fleet in 2000, we got caught up in it.Honestly surprised about a fault like this showing up already on relatively new units.
They have been in service for what? Three years?
And the last year of that they have had hardly any weight/load on em due to lack of passenger numbers with the pandemic.
I think this is a communication disaster at LNER. It has been left to the poor twitter feed operative to justify the cancellation of trains.Our friends on the LNER Twitter feed tried to imply that information from this forum might not be correct. This is a well respected forum with many knowledgeable contributors and that was pointed out. Why LNER could not have been open and honest with customers is beyond me. It is fair to suggest that they knew full well what was going on but for reasons unknown did not wish to convey that information to fare paying customers. There was nothing wrong with saying that the trains were being inspected and would come back into service when safe to do so. Customers can handle such information.
I can't imagine that any TOC wants to take its entire fleet offline at such short notice. Just had to listen to some small man mouthing off at staff at Reading about it. As if it's the dispatcher's fault that trains cannot run.
You have to understand that if you spent a lot of money, or planned a trip out, or had to be somewhere important. You would be very angry at the moment.
Although it's not the dispatchers fault, they probably needed someone to vent their frustrations to. Not acceptable but understandable given the circumstances.
My plans have be ruined today, and I am very angry. But I recognise it isn't GWRs fault.
I'd rather be a little peeved off (and get my money back) than have a catastrophic failure on my train whilst it was travelling at 125mph.
Driving can scarcely be described as 'dangerous'This is ludicrous. If it's causing people to drive it's probably putting them in more danger. Not only that but you'd think LNER would ease up on their mandatory reservations policy but no
Yes, They planned it - but typical SNAFU.
180'sGrand Central could do quite well out of all this I suppose.
What are they running today?
Plenty of 365s around! Weren't they used after the 91s were temporarily withdrawn after the Sandy incident?Are there any 321's around to substitute on the ECML like last time
While I don't dispute the point that many contributors on here are knowledgeable and in plenty of cases are involved at the deep end - it's a web forum. As a result for every two or three sensible, informative posts on a topic you'll get someone posting silly speculation or simply making things up - and due to the nature of web forums, it's not like we all have our backgrounds and knowledge plastered on here for people to see.Our friends on the LNER Twitter feed tried to imply that information from this forum might not be correct. This is a well respected forum with many knowledgeable contributors and that was pointed out. Why LNER could not have been open and honest with customers is beyond me. It is fair to suggest that they knew full well what was going on but for reasons unknown did not wish to convey that information to fare paying customers. There was nothing wrong with saying that the trains were being inspected and would come back into service when safe to do so. Customers can handle such information.
Unfortunately, LNER have stated that "a new reservation must be made before travel" however, journeys can be made until 16th May as a result of the disruption caused.Are reservations compulsory?
Neville Hill is the home depot for the LNER 91s and Mark 4s.There was a rake of mk 4's sat at Neville Hill when I went past last week. Whether they're usable I don't know.
Unfortunately, LNER have stated that "a new reservation must be made before travel" however, journeys can be made until 16th May as a result of the disruption caused.
Can it? How do you know?Which is quite reasonable - a trip planned for this weekend can be deferred to next weekend.
Can it? How do you know?
Yep, good Job the numbers travelling are very few though..These things happen. After the last year or so I’m sure we’ll be able to cope.
Plenty of 365s around! Weren't they used after the 91s were temporarily withdrawn after the Sandy incident?
Anyway, as to what has happened today I think the main thing will be how long is this expected to go on for. Longer term if a number of trains remain withdrawn then I'd look to run what 800s are available from places like Reading or Didcot to Bristol, Plymouth, Cardiff etc and from Peterborough to Edinburgh, Leeds. Then use 387s/700s to run from Paddington and Kings Cross to connect.
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Yes, I guess it depends how long it goes on for !
Neville Hill is the home depot for the LNER 91s and Mark 4s.
Indeed, however I think I'd read that they've been stashed away somewhere for the pandemic !
They cant cope with our rough riding infrastructure lolYaw dampers
Not necessarily. If you were going to a relative's wedding for example...Which is quite reasonable - a trip planned for this weekend can be deferred to next weekend.
Not necessarily.
Ooh I did that from KX to Leeds once, probably more comfortable than sitting on stones like the 8xx. Bit noisy with all the windows open at full speed thoughAre there any 321's around to substitute on the ECML like last time
While it is probably good to discourage travel during major disruption, to insist upon reservations being maintained now is ridiculous. I do hope that this is not a foretaste of the post-covid future for LNER...Unfortunately, LNER have stated that "a new reservation must be made before travel" however, journeys can be made until 16th May as a result of the disruption caused.
I'm not blaming LNER (or GWR for that matter) for something beyond their control. I was merely questioning your categoric statement.OK, so what's the alternative thing LNER could do that would be better?
It’s very reasonable. It’s more than GWR are doing (subject to change I guess).Which is quite reasonable - a trip planned for this weekend can be deferred to next weekend.