fife_circle
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How do the Merc bendys do for fuel? Do they not come out at night because of fuel or because of their reliability?
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The refuelling is done in the evening, that is why the hydrogen buses stop working after teatime.
Jordan Adam
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Wasn't that the case in 2021 too though and yet they were happy having some of them out later? It's only been since the pump became less reliable that they haven't been out at all later.
Trnsprt4Sctlnd
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In my experience the Mercedes and E500s were reliable enough, just there age getting to them slowly but certainly.
The E500s have been touted as gas guzzlers, the Citaros being 2 tonnes heavier yet again can only mean they will at least be as efficient as the E500s.
Jordan Adam
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Yes. The Enviro500s have them too.
AndrewTaylor95
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Most of Glasgow buses had the passengers info screens from new, Even got fitted to a few Plaxton Presidents as well, They used to scroll the location you where at by every street up until about 2010 then they just only ever displayed the date and time or Ferrograph OVD, The E400s that are now in Aberdeen should have them too.
Only 2 of the ones that came to Aberdeen have this, the rest are similar to the Aberdeen bought ones.
handandy67
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Just noticed that another 2 E500s have been taken out of fleet - 38205 and 38221. I guess they will be heading south to Ensign if they're not already sold. This only leaves 7 still in Aberdeen 9, 10, 13, 15, 18,19 and 23. I wonder if they will be keeping 38223 after getting it done for the 125 years service in Aberdeen.
It's probably going to Sheffield for fuel and driver rest overnight; that's what the others did.
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Jordan Adam
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It may have been mentioned already but 38213/15/18/19/23 are staying for the foreseeable future.
AndrewTaylor95
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I think the plan is to reduce the amount of them because of their poor MPG, Obviously saving money but still keeping the ones they have for capacity for the 1/2 that's always needed, everytime I'm in Aberdeen it's a route I use constantly and it's always absolutely packed.
It was also due to the difficulty getting parts for them, having to spend a long time out of service waiting for them.
sbrignall72
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Why have First Aberdeen stopped tracking on bus times.
Jordan Adam
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The retained E500s aren't for the 1/2, they're for school services and the 9U contract. Even with three still to be withdrawn only 38210 was on the 1/2 today. As such in terms of service work your best shot of finding them will be on the 11/11A and 19 since of the school services the 15S and 19S duties are the ones that are most consistently allocated an E500.
There has also been an increase in single deckers on the 1/2 due to the 20 now requiring two deckers and the E400s not exactly proving reliable...
The duty 38210 is on today seems to be allocated an E500 though. I presume it is for the Harlaw Academy pupils who mostly use that service.
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Jordan Adam
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The 2S was a Hydroliner. Unless you're meaning the Ex-Garthdee 1 in the morning? if so then the duty its on is too late to be of use for Harlaw pupils.
fife_circle
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Why have they switched the 20 to decker operated? It was almost exclusively singles until the e400s arrived. Surely the 1&2 need the deckers more than the 20.
I frequently used the 20 last year and single deckers were annoying at some points of the day however they could generally cope at most points of the day.
The 20 always needed double deckers since the under 22 card was introduced but First Aberdeen did not have enough double deckers and the really busy duty used to be the last bus out of the depot so got what was left. The single deckers were leaving Hillhead with standing loads during the day.
I notice the Yutongs now mostly are on duties not out in the evening, presumably cost related rather than having inadequate charge left.
I notice the Yutongs now mostly are on duties not out in the evening, presumably cost related rather than having inadequate charge left.
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handandy67
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just seen 38209 is now off fleet as well as 38205
Not yet 38205 is on route 20 today.
Jordan Adam
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33902 is now on fleet, hence 38209 coming off last night.
67789 has also returned to service after a lengthy period off the road.
63193 and 69138 were both collected by Trevor Wigleys on Monday.
67789 has also returned to service after a lengthy period off the road.
63193 and 69138 were both collected by Trevor Wigleys on Monday.
38209 is also in service today on route 19.
Jordan Adam
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Seems to be a common theme of taking a bus off then reinstating it the following Monday when they're short again...
PG
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Do any manufacturers offer electric bendies?
The bid was for double deckers, and the grant was a lump sum, so no more would be available for the much more expensive bendies, anyway. Plus IF the whole depot is to be electric as planned, including the coaches, there probably is no room for them anyway.
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dodecahedron67
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Mercedes do, but I believe they are quite pricey. £/€800,000 - 1,000,000 iirc