Furthest Detour on one TOC.

[Andrew Nelson]

Quite complicated one....

If, for example, I wanted to go from York to Darlington on Northern, It would be a rather conveluted route, South east to Leeds, Up S&C to carlisle, accross to Newcastle, and then via Sunderland to Middlesbrough, and West to Darlington. Or the rarer Newcastle to Darlington via Durham....

Can anybody beat that in terms of mileage?

 

[scotsman]

Dunbar - Newcastle on ScotRail

Dunbar-Edinburgh-Shotts-Glasgow Central-Kilmarnock-Dumfries-Carlisle-Hexham-Newcastle

 

[Aictos]

Would Euston to Inverness via Aberdeen count?

 

[Tomnick]

If we're talking relative to direct mileage, how about Sheffied - Worksop or Stockport - Stoke with EMT. Sheffield - Doncaster via EMT would be a good one, if it wasn't for the handful of Londons that go that way...it'd work for the former Central Trains though.

Preston - Leeds or Carlisle - Newcastle via XC must be a contender too.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Preston - Leeds or Carlisle - Newcastle via XC must be a contender too.

Preston and Carlisle were removed from the XC network when Arriva took over the franchise.

 

[142094]

Quite complicated one....

If, for example, I wanted to go from York to Darlington on Northern, It would be a rather conveluted route, South east to Leeds, Up S&C to carlisle, accross to Newcastle, and then via Sunderland to Middlesbrough, and West to Darlington. Or the rarer Newcastle to Darlington via Durham....

Can anybody beat that in terms of mileage?

Could go an even longer way:

York - Sheffield (Dearne Valley service), Sheffield - Manchester, Manchester - Preston, Preston - Carlisle via Barrow/Cumbrian Coast line, Carlisle - Middlesbrough - Middlesbrough - Darlington.

 

[Andrew Nelson]

Could go an even longer way:

York - Sheffield (Dearne Valley service), Sheffield - Manchester, Manchester - Preston, Preston - Carlisle via Barrow/Cumbrian Coast line, Carlisle - Middlesbrough - Middlesbrough - Darlington.

I actually ment as short as You can mannage, as in a Northern only free ticket.

But good answers anyhow.

 

[imagination]

Exeter-Bournemouth on Cross Country would take you via Birmingham
as would Guildford-Stanstead or Peterborough-Doncaster
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Gatwick-Brighton on First Great Western via Redhill, Reading, Westbury and Southampton

in the old great western franchise you used to have Hereford-Newport via Worcester,Oxford and Didcot too. But now FGW run services from Great Malvern to Bristol so that isnt as impressive as it was.
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Reading-Basingstoke on South West Trains via Virginia Water and Woking

Or more so, Bristol Temple Meads - Reading on South West Trains
via Westbury, Salisbury, Basingstoke, Woking, Chertsey and Virginia Water
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Blaenau Ffestiniog - Minffordd on Arriva Trains Wales via Llandudno Junction, Shotton, Wrexham, Shrewsbury and Machynlleth.
As opposed to the Ffestiniog railway...

Birmingham - Cheltenham on Arriva Trains Wales via Newport, Hereford and Shrewsbury

 

[12CSVT]

Newcastle to Edinburgh by First Trans Pennine

Newcastle - York - Leeds - Huddersfield - Manchester Piccadilly - Preston - Carlisle - Lockerbie - Edinburgh

 

[scrapy]

Stoke to Derby with Northern.

SOT to MAN to SHF to NOT to DBY

 

[Lampshade]

Hmm, Clapham Junction - Putney via Wimbledon, Surbiton, Weybridge, Virginia Water, Staines, Hounslow Loop.

It doesn't beat it in terms of overall mileage but it's probably a candidate for the largest detour in relation to the direct distance.

 

[12CSVT]

Gatwick Airport to Brighton on FGW

Redhill, Reading, Newbury, Westbury, Salisbury, Southampton Central, Fareham, Havant, Chichester

 

[Failed Unit]

Not as long in terms of the detour but it is a direct train. Scunthorpe to Lincoln via Sheffield.

 

[Andrew Nelson]

Not as long in terms of the detour but it is a direct train. Scunthorpe to Lincoln via Sheffield.

Don't think I'll bother, it's £22.10 and point to point not realy that far....

If it was a bit cheaper, and as We know, all through Services are valid, I may have chanced My arm.

 

[GNERman]

Newcastle-Edinburgh with fTPE?

Newcastle - Manchester Piccadilly - Edinburgh...

 

[First class]

Liverpool-Preston-Whitehaven-Carlisle-Newcastle

Liverpool-Preston or Manchester Vic-Leeds-Carlisle-Newcastle

 

[Invincibles]

When Central Trains still existed Manchester Airport to Manchester Piccadilly must have been a real contender.

Manchester Airport - Crewe - Derby - Nottingham - Sheffield - Manchester Piccadilly

But of course that one no longer exists because EMT only go as far as Crewe. Crewe to Manchester Piccadilly is still a good one, but maybe now Crewe - Liverpool South Parkway is the shortest distance that requires a long route with EMT

 

[GNERman]

Bradford Interchange - Sunderland with GC? Changing at London Kings Cross...

 

[43167]

A blast from the past. London Paddington-London Euston using Virgin Trains only. Paddington-Coventry, Coventry-Euston.

 

[ainsworth74]

Bradford Interchange - Sunderland with GC? Changing at London Kings Cross...

[PEDANTMODE]But GC isn't a TOC [/PEDANTMODE]

Certainly one of the longer ways round of getting somewhere, 77 miles as the crow flies or 463 travelling via GC! hock:

 

[GNERman]

[PEDANTMODE]But GC isn't a TOC [/PEDANTMODE]

Certainly one of the longer ways round of getting somewhere, 77 miles as the crow flies or 463 travelling via GC! hock:

And I knew someone would say that... But definatly a long way of having to do it...

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Ashford Intl-Hastings on SE: via Tonbridge;
Exeter St Davids-Bristol TM on SWT: via Salisbury;
Stoke-Derby on XC: via Birmingham N St.

(All three of those are pretty awful!)

 

[Andrew Nelson]

[PEDANTMODE]But GC isn't a TOC [/PEDANTMODE]

Certainly one of the longer ways round of getting somewhere, 77 miles as the crow flies or 463 travelling via GC! hock:

"But GC isn't a TOC"

If it isn't a TOC, what is it?

It's a Company, who operates Trains, so surly a Train Operating Company.

Maybe not a Frinchise, but surely a TOC....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Central_Railway

 

[MidnightFlyer]

"But GC isn't a TOC"

If it isn't a TOC, what is it?

It's a Company, who operates Trains, so surly a Train Operating Company.

Maybe not a Frinchise, but surely a TOC....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Central_Railway

It's an Open Access Operator, not a TOC

 

[Andrew Nelson]

It's an Open Access Operator, not a TOC

And what stops it being a TOC then, they seem to think they are.

Just wondered, as an OAO, can't be a TOC then?

Why?

What's the difference?

"The Grand Central Railway Company Limited is a privately-owned train operating company operating passenger rail services under the name Grand Central on the East Coast Main Line (ECML) in the United Kingdom."

 

[MidnightFlyer]

And what stops it being a TOC then, they seem to think they are.

Just wondered, as an OAO, can't be a TOC then?

Why?

What's the difference?

"The Grand Central Railway Company Limited is a privately-owned train operating company operating passenger rail services under the name Grand Central on the East Coast Main Line (ECML) in the United Kingdom."

Wikipedia is hardly the gospel thruth, is it? It is a franchise not subject to franchising, like Heathrow Express, or WSMR. Whether officially it is a TOC or not I do not know.

 

[Andrew Nelson]

[PEDANTMODE]But GC isn't a TOC [/PEDANTMODE]

Certainly one of the longer ways round of getting somewhere, 77 miles as the crow flies or 463 travelling via GC! hock:

Better would be Doncaster to York with GC.

 

[philjo]

Whitby-Scarborough only using Northern?

Whitby-Middlesborough-Hartlepool-Newcastle-Carlisle-Settle-Leeds-Doncaster-Hull-Bridlington-Scarborough.


Newcastle-Carlisle TPE only (i.e. via Manchester)

 

[richard1976]

Chester to Southport with northern

(goes via Manchester)