Future of Newhaven Marine and Harbour Stations?

[Grizz]

Cooksbridge...

 

[trainmania100]

Is it unusal for Freightliner 66's to visit the branch?

The Mendip contract was taken over by freightliner a few months ago, so apart from the Thursday DB Cargo Brentford ash train (and today's unusual STP stone which presumably isn't mendip), all the other day aggs mendip stone trains are freightliner now.

The marine terminal trains will be dB cargo, so daily, you'll see a mix of freight liner and DB cargo.


While on the subject of marine, I took these photos today after the arrival of 66105 at Newhaven day aggs.
The triangular pillars are slowly making their way around the yard, and presumably this vantage point is soon to be no more.

The port access road is starting to take shape.

Pics attached.

 

[trainmania100]

Cooksbridge...
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Nice shot Grizz, thanks for sharing
Here it is at Newhaven day aggs.

 

[Grizz]

Is it unusal for Freightliner 66's to visit the branch?

Not these days, Since Freightlinertook over the contract and the class 59s, up until a couple of weeks ago we regularly had Freightliner 66s and 59s but the last couple of weeks they have been cancelling the Mon Tues Wed workings from Acton T.C. not sure why.

 

[Grizz]

Nice shot Grizz, thanks for sharing
Here it is at Newhaven day aggs.

Your are most welcome. Nice shot yourself there!

Great to see those big ol ex scrap wagon JNAs down in the Deep South again. It’s been a while since they have turned up on a Newhaven working. We used to get the odd one mixed in a rake from time to time.

 

[Grizz]

Today’s Freightliner train actually ran, although it was a fairly regular visitor. 59103 running right time passing Hamsey AHBC , quite claggy.... : )

 

[Grizz]

Quick heads up if anyone is interested, Railrecord showing 66107 on the Acton T.C. to Newhaven this morning and could be a second working if that 14:38 from Acton runs.

 

[Grizz]

66107 working 6V00 Newhaven to Acton T.C. running 33 minutes late from Lewes, crawling up Hamsey Bank. KEA VTG 3207???, fourth wagon from the rear of the train had what sounded like dragging brakes (screaming) as it passed Hamsey AHBC. Might account for the late running.

 

[trainmania100]

66107 working 6V00 Newhaven to Acton T.C. running 33 minutes late from Lewes, crawling up Hamsey Bank. KEA VTG 3207???, fourth wagon from the rear of the train had what sounded like dragging brakes (screaming) as it passed Hamsey AHBC. Might account for the late running.

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Nice shots , the second run (6O24) appears to be a runner today, unsure of the Allox. My guess would be same consist and loco as Tuesday

 

[Grizz]

Nice shots , the second run (6O24) appears to be a runner today, unsure of the Allox. My guess would be same consist and loco as Tuesday

Yep spot on! 66105 and the rake of JNA GERs.

This mornings Newhaven To Acton was 59004, approaching Plumpton.




DB 66110 running 6O24 (673C) Acton T.C. To Newhaven Day Aggregates on the JNA GERs rake.

 

[trainmania100]

6O13 should be a runner Thursday, 1322 into Marine, Return goes to Neasden on the VAR path. That's what I've heard.

Train 6O13 Acton T.C. to Newhaven Marine Ag Tml Dbc | Rail Record

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[Baxenden Bank]

I have been advised (by a Nuttal personnel) that the public stone path that leads from the south side of Mill Creek to the beach (which runs between the new port access road and the aggregates terminal) will close at the end of the summer to allow Phase 2 of the road building to be completed. Given that the path that used to run alongside the railway on the north side of Mill Creek has been closed since works started and the fact that the bridge pillars look as though they obstruct this right of way, it looks like there will be no access to Tide Mills or the beach from the Newhaven end.

I guessed the dirt track closure was coming. But I would hope that the path that runs directly alongside the railway towards Tide Mills might open so as to retain the link - otherwise the area will be cut off from the Newhaven end...

Copy of the temporary closure notice for footpath 6 (north side of the creek).
East Sussex CC - footpath closures

 

[Grizz]

6O13 should be a runner Thursday, 1322 into Marine, Return goes to Neasden on the VAR path. That's what I've heard.

Train 6O13 Acton T.C. to Newhaven Marine Ag Tml Dbc | Rail Record

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Nice one, thanks for the gen! Will watch with interest.

Just a quick question, any idea what a rail swing is? I am an old hand at Pway but I’ve never heard the term.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Copy of the temporary closure notice for footpath 6 (north side of the creek).
East Sussex CC - footpath closures

Yes, footpath 6, that runs alongside the railway has been closed since the bridge works started. From what I understood from my conversation (a few weeks ago), footpath 7, currently the alternative route will also close to allow further works to the new road. If footpath 6 is to remain closed until Sep 2021, then there will be no access to the south side of Mill Creek onto Newhaven Beach and thus, walkers will be cut off.

When I'm next in the area, I'll see if I can get any further clarification...

 

[trainmania100]

Heard from a friendly gent I met whilst seeing 37610 at Lewes today, that Newhaven town box has scaffolding up and there is a road closure notice in for Saturday night. Looks like it'll be going this week. Didn't get time to check for myself but will have a look on Thursday whilst waiting for 6O13.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Heard from a friendly gent I met whilst seeing 37610 at Lewes today, that Newhaven town box has scaffolding up and there is a road closure notice in for Saturday night. Looks like it'll be going this week. Didn't get time to check for myself but will have a look on Thursday whilst waiting for 6O13.

Scaffolding must have gone up this morning as it wasn't there yesterday.

Thanks for the heads up

 

[trainmania100]

Scaffolding must have gone up this morning as it wasn't there yesterday.

Thanks for the heads up

I think he said it's on one side of the box, not all around it , but probably worth getting some final photos

 

[trainmania100]

66113 alloxed to the 6O13, the new key workers livery. First train into marine, new vynil livery what more could you want heh

Train 6O13 Acton T.C. to Newhaven Marine Ag Tml Dbc | Rail Record

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[Grizz]

66113 alloxed to the 6O13, the new key workers livery. First train into marine, new vynil livery what more could you want heh

Train 6O13 Acton T.C. to Newhaven Marine Ag Tml Dbc | Rail Record

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Totally! thanks for the gen. just hope that the flipping weather clears up. Hopefully going to get 6V00 on the UP and the 6O13 on the down at around the same time as they are both booked to pass at Keynes Jcn at 12:50...if they are running right time.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

I can't see a return working for this?

 

[trainmania100]

I can't see a return working for this?

Runs the VAR path to neasden about 2130

Train 6V16 Newhaven Marine Ag Tml Dbc to Neasden Engineers Sdgs | Rail Record

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[Islineclear3_1]

Ah thanks, I did wonder...

Be dark by then, shame as I'm stuck at work

 

[Grizz]

Got 66188 working 6V00 and 66113 working 6O13 at the crossing on the country side of Plumpton station. Great to see that the terminal is now open and operating trains. Takes me back to the good old days of Cromptons and 73s and RMC JGAs.....

 

[trainmania100]

Cracking shots. Here's some pics from Newhaven marine

 

[Grizz]

Cracking shots. Here's some pics from Newhaven marine

Superb photos chap! Great shot of the wagons in the loading area, it shows how it’s going to work. Such a shame that so few wagons can be squeezed in, but its better than nothing.

Nothing showing as confirmed for tomorrow yet, either for the FL morning run to Day Aggregates or the DB afternoon run to the Marine Terminal.

 

[trainmania100]

In terms of future marine freights, discussion on various Facebook threads suggest:
> They're Aiming for around 4 loaded trains out of Marine per day
> WC 22nd there may be 1 train out of marine, not yet confirmed
> WC 29th there should be at least 1 train.

It's from a reliable source, but won't share any names for privacy reasons and with FB the links don't always work.

Personally I wouldn't mind a shot of the marine passing the town yard, would be nice to get 2 freights side by side , might try that when they start picking up the pace

 

[trainmania100]

The site of Newhaven town box now...

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Drove down to Kent and took a slight detour through Newhaven to have a look. From the photo by trainmania100, looks like some of the brickwork remains, perhaps as a retaining wall for something

 

[Grizz]

Never having been to Newhaven I must say it must have been quite an interesting place when used for ferry services. How far did passengers have to walk to get on the ferries.

Well off the BR boat trains from Victoria it was a case of get off the train and walk into the terminal at Newhaven Marine station, alittle further from Newhaven Harbour station off normal scheduled services. They used to run CEPs and an MLV, caught it a few times. In BR Blue and Grey and also occasionally Jaffa Cake. Happy days with a few beers on the go. Wish I’d taken photos but thought it would be there for ever!

 

[swt_passenger]

Well off the BR boat trains from Victoria it was a case of get off the train and walk into the terminal at Newhaven Marine station, alittle further from Newhaven Harbour station off normal scheduled services. They used to run CEPs and an MLV, caught it a few times. In BR Blue and Grey and also occasionally Jaffa Cake. Happy days with a few beers on the go. Wish I’d taken photos but thought it would be there for ever!

You’ve replied to a question from Nov 2015, which I think was answered on page 2 of this thread...