Lytham Local
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Well this explains the work on at Lytham next to the platform, but not why there's an AWS magnet. One to keep my eye on.
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Signal going in at Lytham AFAIK so they can turn back there if required.
Signal going in at Lytham AFAIK so they can turn back there if required.
Why does it suddenly need a signal? Trains have been turning back short without signals on that branch for years.....
Is it intended that a second train could follow the Blackpool South train and turn back at Lytham ahead of the return working from Blackpool? This would need a minimum of three signals but I don't know if any others are being put in nearby.
Would it not mainly be for when the Open Golf is on at Lytham, whereby the branch frequency is upped by doing short workings to Lytham and back, rather than trundling all the way to Blackpool South (which is bus-replaced instead)?
yes, to operate to/from Ormskirk.Slightly related here but according to some Northern bumf in 2018 the longstanding Blackpool South - Colne services are being split in two at Preston. Another step towards the eventual tram training of the line?
Saw Seve playing after having to change on way back from South.This might be a silly question but I am not sure of the answer. While the station at Blackpool North is closed is the line to South still open or is everything closed from Fylde Junction?
I am wondering if the signals are to split the line two and have a captive unit for events such as the golf or as above line closures?
yes, to operate to/from Ormskirk.
Can't remember the years.. but in one year for the Open Golf, the line was effectively split at Ansdell, with the half-hourly 4-car extras service terminating at Ansdell, and the hourly regular service to B'pl Sth operating from the further end of the platform... (Seem to recall also that the golf extras operated from the Res platform at Preston..?)
It is necessary for TCB working ...
One signal might be, but TCB can still be OT. It (the upgrade) may be required for the correct operation of ARS, which will need to know where the trains are a long way out in order to make the best decisions.
No it didn't. It was the 2012 golf open. The normal service was withdrawn and an enhanced special service (one train all stops and one limited stop) operated to Ansdell only. Buses operated between Ansdell and Blackpool South. They did use ReS platform at Preston and were all 4 car 150/2 trains.
Just checked the signalling diagram, track circuits are being installed with a 2 aspect signal BL5834 at Blackpool South, distant BL5828 at Ansdell, BL5826 at Lytham. On the down a single yellow BL5833 replaces the fixed distant board at Pleasure Beach
That was the operation in 2012...
The operation I described was in one (or more) of the previous years... I couldn't remember the years, so I've checked... so 2001, or 1996...
So.. yes it did.. (both what you describe, and what I describe, at different times)..
Agreed. I remember the operation described as D60. It was many years ago, perhaps up to 20 years ago.
The double track is extended a bit but Kirkham gets extensively rationalised and remodelled as part of the work with a new platform 3. Blackpool South will use 1 bi-directionally and North will be the mains through 2 and the new 3.
So with no Down stop signals the branch can still only accommodate one train.
On the Fylde planning portal I found this General Arrangement drawing which shows the new platform and access work:
http://www3.fylde.gov.uk/online-app...-PROPOSED_F002_GENERAL_ARRANGEMENT-786387.pdf
The drawing shows platform #1 as the the "Down Lytham" but I guess it will be bidirectional to allow a shuttle service on the branch when neccessary. Are there also crossovers to the west, between the station and original junction divergence to allow up Lytham trains to reach platfrom 3?