SolomonSouth
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I wonder if these coming in will send the worst of the diesels (37, 47 and 66 locomotives) off to scrap, or if they have the yard space to accommodate these as extra locomotives.
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GBRf Class 99 - 30 locomotives now ordered
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ExRes
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Looking at it from solely a GBRf angle they have zero 37s and three 47s while they've spent big money on importing 66s from Europe, I can't see that the 99s arriving will be making much of an impact for some years to come, especially bearing in mind how long it will take for them all to be delivered
SolomonSouth
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You are correct that all the 99s likely won’t be delivered for a bit of time yet.
I still reckon it depends on how much spare yard space they have. If yard space is an issue they will need to send some locomotives away to allow the 99s in. That being said I’m not a railway employee and they probably know more than I do about yard space.
Nym
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They just build a massive new shed at UKRL Leicester to look after them so it’s proberbly fine…
Also the new site at Peterborough
Also the new site at Peterborough
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I thought the depot at Leicester was for the 93s?
Class15
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It would make sense for them to be maintained at the same depot, but I think you are correct that the 93s were Leicester, so maybe Peterborough for 99s. Fits in well with their planned work as well (assuming they can handle Felixstowe - Nuneaton on diesel!)
Spaceship323
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No the 99's - GBRf built the shed, no one knows where the 93's will be used yet (and the're ROG owned)
geordieblue
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Network Rail reps on the new ECML timetable have now been published here: https://www.orr.gov.uk/sites/defaul...general-representation-2025-03-14-annex-a.pdf. Interestingly, p. 125 of the pdf lists the proposed flows for Class 99s, including Tyne Dock-Drax, Rylstone-Hull, North Blyth-Fort William and several others. May be worth a read
Class15
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Fort William and Hoo Junction sound a long way to go on diesel! But these sound amazing, some good stuff in the north east and from a selfish point of view the Tilbury and London Gateway ones look good.
BRX
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Certainly Hoo-Whitemoor is interesting to see in there. Does Hoo Jn have a fuelling point?
120ish miles between Craigendoran and Fort William. Is that within its capability? (suppose it's 240 for a round trip)
They have a 3,000 litre fuel tank. That will be good for several round trips!
Thank you! Hadn't followed the specs closely. Be nice to see at least one diesel train disappear from the North Electrics...
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I wasn't expecting the 99s to be coming to Airedale - a welcome addition to the area.
How-about, Liverpool Bulk Terminal to Drax or Ribblehead to Tuebrook/Ashton-in-Makerfield
Belfastmarty
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I think the list above is ECML routes only. I'd imagine with 30 locos the 99s will be spread.far and wide on other routes too.
Rail Quest
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Very interesting feature in Modern Railways from yesterday. Includes lots of insight from GBRf's Safety and Sustainability Director Dave Golding. It highlights things like intended uses and expected performance of the locomotive to a level of detail that I've rarely seen thus far.
I believe the article is subware but I was somehow able to view it without a subscription.
www.modernrailways.com
[URL directs to Modern Railways website feature discussing GBRf class 99 fleet]
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Rail Magazine are now reporting that negotiations are underway for ten of the 30 class 99s on order to be fitted with ETS and geared for 100mph running.
www.railmagazine.com
[Link directs to Rail Magazine article reporting potential fitment of ten Class 99s with ETS and 100mph running]
I believe the article is subware but I was somehow able to view it without a subscription.
Class 99: the future of rail freight
Set to revolutionise rail freight, the first Class 99s are due to arrive in the UK in the next few weeks. Ahead of the arrival, GB Railfreight Safety and Sustainability Director DAVE GOLDING explains
www.modernrailways.com
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Rail Magazine are now reporting that negotiations are underway for ten of the 30 class 99s on order to be fitted with ETS and geared for 100mph running.
GBRf discussing plans for ten Class 99s to be ETS fitted and have 100mph top speed
GB Railfreight has not ruled out a further batch being fitted with Dellner couplers
www.railmagazine.com
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Class15
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Are there any updates on the delivery of these locomotives?
ExRes
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Reported on WNXX this evening that 99001 & 99002 are due to arrive into the UK on June 16th via Avonmouth and are to be rail hauled to Leicester LIP, 99003 onwards are due to arrive via Portbury
It’s annoying that when they widened the motorway over the Avonmouth bridge a number of years ago that they got rid of the footway/cycle path on the north side of the bridge, it would have been a good spot for some long-lens surveillance of these arrivals!
londonmidland
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Are the facilities at Leicester LIP ready for the arrival of the 99s?
FrodshamJnct
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Photo here:
Image shows two class 99 locomotives being hauled through a station in Germany.
I’d rather have the RA locos
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Looks like Bremen Hbf to me?
It is yes.
londonmidland
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I’m surprised Leicester LIP is still void of any corporate branding on its new shed. I would have thought they’d have a big sign up by now, ready for the first 99 delivery.
ac6000cw
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Would you expect it to have Stadler branding on it, as according to this post - https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/class-93-tri-mode-loco.210779/post-7303403 - it's a Stadler facility within the overall UKRL-managed depot site.
FrodshamJnct
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I’ve just seen this photo on Facebook of what looks to be 99001 being loaded onto a ship:
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