General Election 2017: The Results and Aftermath

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Former Chancellor George Osborne is obviously delighted with the deal. The below if the front page of tonight's LSE and inside an editorial where he accuses the moderates in the Conservative party of spending too much time criticising Corbyn and not coming up with a proper strategy of their own.

Not sure what the 'london stock exchange' has to do with the Evening Standard

 

[berneyarms]

I thought LSE was the London School of Economics!!

 

[northwichcat]

Ignore.

 

[DarloRich]

Following the DUP deal do we now move from a hung parliament to a bung parliament?

 

[Tetchytyke]

Can you enlighten us by telling exactly what action this George Cross was said to have been awarded for.

The intelligence officer had orchestrated the Miami Showband murders and the car bombings in Dublin and Monaghan. The IRA then kidnapped him and murdered him. The George Cross was awarded for the fact the IRA had kidnapped him and murdered him.

 

[DarloRich]

The intelligence officer had orchestrated the Miami Showband murders and the car bombings in Dublin and Monaghan. The IRA then kidnapped him and murdered him. The George Cross was awarded for the fact the IRA had kidnapped him and murdered him.

Robert Nairac was tortured quite horribly and then shot. He didn't even reveal his own name under that pressure. His body has never been found.

 

[SteveP29]

Teresa May has been criticised for not going here and there and a reluctance to meet people, especially Grenfall residents. Today was Armed Forces Day but did the Leader of the Labour Party pay his respects ? No. He went to Glastonbury spouting his usual stuff from the stage. Actually got as great a reception from the young naive as if he had been performing on the stage.

Did Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and David Cameron not disrespect forces personnel even more by sending them to their deaths, to wheelchairs and to the streets of Britain, then leave them to fend for themselves?
If you're talking respect, then they should have been cared for upon their return, not left to fend for themselves with ever reducing help and counselling that they would have to find themselves via their GP or their own efforts.
How about we vilify those that continue to send people into war zones while they sleep soundly in their beds at night with a man on the door to prevent anything happening to them, lest they get a taste of the real world?
What must it be like to live in your world where your sadism knows no bounds, going from previous posts, it seems you're happy to let people who can't look after themselves suffer, let the jobless rot and suffer, see people who are 'non British' 'non white' as an enemy or sub human and happy to satiate a blood lust by sending soldiers to their deaths or life changing injury that makes their lives misery. Oh how nice and jolly it must be to be you!

 

[Tetchytyke]

Robert Nairac was tortured quite horribly and then shot. He didn't even reveal his own name under that pressure. His body has never been found.

His body never will be found, it'll have decomposed in a peat bog somewhere.]

And yes, I agree that he was extremely brave under that torture, even the IRA (grudgingly) respected him for it. Doesn't mean he didn't deliberately recruit soldiers into the UDA and UVF and have them commit terrorist atrocities.

 

[SteveP29]

Indeed it doesn't. But in my previous job I probably trained something like two thousand people over the years, of varying ages 16 being the youngest through to early 50s.

I can't think of more than a half dozen times where the person who always had an excuse for not turning up on time was in the older bracket. Or where it was an older person making completely inappropriate jokes/comments, etc.

Don't get me wrong, the majority of the young people wanted to work and did so, but youth and immaturity seem to like hanging out together.

As an employer, the fact that a 16 year old is cheaper in terms of wages may well be the deciding factor in giving them a job.

That's a work ethic, not work ability

 

[Dave1987]

So after telling nurses during the election campaign that there is no magic money tree to give them a decent pay rise, £1bn is suddenly found behind the sofa in Downing Street to keep May in power. That is utterly disgraceful.

 

[DarloRich]

So after telling nurses during the election campaign that there is no magic money tree to give them a decent pay rise, £1bn is suddenly found behind the sofa in Downing Street to keep May in power. That is utterly disgraceful.

Same old Tories, same old lies...............

 

[AlterEgo]

So after telling nurses during the election campaign that there is no magic money tree to give them a decent pay rise, £1bn is suddenly found behind the sofa in Downing Street to keep May in power. That is utterly disgraceful.

It really stinks, doesn't it?

 

[SteveP29]

Yes, Theresa May just handed out a bung.

Strong and stable, everyone. To be sure, to be sure.

Would it be libellous to say it's a bribe??

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

So after telling nurses during the election campaign that there is no magic money tree to give them a decent pay rise, £1bn is suddenly found behind the sofa in Downing Street to keep May in power. That is utterly disgraceful.

Will all the people in Northern Ireland not see any benefit from this money or just those in the DUP. They are the ones with a common border with Eire, unlike any other part of the country.

Stop whinging and be a realist for a change. It must be a damn big sofa in Downing Street to have £1 billion behind it and just think, if the Blessed Jeremy had done what he had said and "won" the election, he would have been the recipient of that windfall...

 

[sk688]

Will all the people in Northern Ireland not see any benefit from this money or just those in the DUP. They are the ones with a common border with Eire, unlike any other part of the country.

Stop whinging and be a realist for a change. It must be a damn big sofa in Downing Street to have £1 billion behind it and just think, if the Blessed Jeremy had done what he had said and "won" the election, he would have been the recipient of that windfall...

Oh , the irony

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

How many boilers does a billion quid buy?!

An interesting conundrum you pose here. Given the fact that British government statistics since 1974 have used the American figure of 1,000,000,000 as the notation for a billion and noting that our new Worcester Bosch boiler was just over £1,870, that works out at an awful lot of boilers..

 

[Dave1987]

It really stinks, doesn't it?

Yup. I seem to remember either May or Rudd (when May was hiding) telling a nurse directly in response to question from the nurse that there was no magic money tree to give them a decent pay rise and that pay restraint had to continue. Now May and her cabinet have suddenly found a spare £1bn. I can only imagine what those nurses must be thinking seeing this.

 

[Dave1987]

Will all the people in Northern Ireland not see any benefit from this money or just those in the DUP. They are the ones with a common border with Eire, unlike any other part of the country.

Stop whinging and be a realist for a change. It must be a damn big sofa in Downing Street to have £1 billion behind it and just think, if the Blessed Jeremy had done what he had said and "won" the election, he would have been the recipient of that windfall...

To be honest Paul the Tories have turned back into the nasty party under your beloved May. Right now I would rather have Corbyn as PM and I cannot quite believe I am thinking that right now. Just shows what a terrible PM May has been and continues to be.....

 

[DarloRich]

Will all the people in Northern Ireland not see any benefit from this money or just those in the DUP. They are the ones with a common border with Eire, unlike any other part of the country.

I wonder how much of this "payment" will be spent in areas not represented by a DUP politician?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

I wonder how much of this "payment" will be spent in areas not represented by a DUP politician?

Will the said money be split over different departments in Northern Ireland and if so, how will your thoughts expressed above show the geographical area split where each department will actually allocate such monies.

This is why there is the need for the Northern Ireland Executive to function again.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

To be honest Paul the Tories have turned back into the nasty party under your beloved May. Right now I would rather have Corbyn as PM and I cannot quite believe I am thinking that right now. Just shows what a terrible PM May has been and continues to be.....

There once was the time when it was thought that Britain under the Cromwellian Commonwealth was just what the country needed...:roll:

 

[Tetchytyke]

This is why there is the need for the Northern Ireland Executive to function again.

The Northern Ireland Executive stopped functioning because of endemic corruption "mistakes" by the DUP, most notably with Cash for Ash but also with the huge funding grants given to the likes of Charter NI.

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

 

[Tetchytyke]

if the Blessed Jeremy had done what he had said and "won" the election, he would have been the recipient of that windfall...

The SNP might have got their IndyRef2, but that's about it.

 

[Dave1987]

There once was the time when it was thought that Britain under the Cromwellian Commonwealth was just what the country needed...:roll:

Telling a nurse directly that there is no money to give them a decent pay rise but then giving a huge bung of taxpayers money to a questionable party to stay in power is simply despicable. There is simply no defence of it. Corbyns economics might be questionable but at least he has principles.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.

Do you use the same reasoning when comparing government under May to government under Corbyn?

Just think, if the General Election result had been announced some five weeks earlier, there would have been the opportunity for the entire British trades union movement to unite under that Red Flag, chanting "All out, May day"..

 

[najaB]

That's a work ethic, not work ability

I don't disagree.

 

[berneyarms]

I wonder how much of this "payment" will be spent in areas not represented by a DUP politician?

It will be divided out by the NI Executive, which I strongly suspect will return this week, so it will be unlikely to be benefitting DUP constituencies alone.

 

[chris11256]

Sturgeon has announced today that indyref2 plans have been reset. Nothing now until at least after brexit.

 

[bramling]

So after telling nurses during the election campaign that there is no magic money tree to give them a decent pay rise, £1bn is suddenly found behind the sofa in Downing Street to keep May in power. That is utterly disgraceful.

£1bn has been spent to give Britain a government, not to keep May in power - she will be gone just as soon as someone can find a way of doing it smoothly.

Maybe the result wouldn't have happened if a few more people had thought through the wider implications of their vote.

And of course any Corbyn coalition would face the same issues, the DUP are still the kingmakers, but with more parties involved.

Someone in my office said today "well done all the clever youngsters, you've just cost us £1bn".

A mess all round.

 

[Darandio]

Someone in my office said today "well done all the clever youngsters, you've just cost us £1bn".

Your office is a strange place.

Wasn't it the old guard who kept them in?