Pete_uk
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Depends whether it was in the spec agreed with the DfT
Oh my god!
Depends whether it was in the spec agreed with the DfT
Yes, I've noticed how the muck accumulates around the edges of the recessed windows. However, the 395s don't seem to have the same problem so maybe their washing plant (Ashford?) works better.I've noticed this as well and I think that part of the problem is that the window glass is recessed more deeply into the bodyside than is the case with the Mark 3s and most recently built European designed stock. A vortex can generate on the vertical edges and deposit muck on the glass. It seems to me to be that Agility Trains'/Hitachi's washing plants can't get into the corners of the glass.
Don't forget that these trains don't use the washers which used to be at OOC and other places, so it's Hitachi's plant or nothing.
An 800/3 noted at Camborne on its way to Penzance this afternoon. I think unit is 304.
Seemed to struggle through Devon...but thanks to almost 7 mins dwell time at Plymouth was able to depart on time and noted arriving early at Camborne.
No. Fixes can take some time to be developed and implemented.
Not certain, but perhaps different trains have different versions of software at this stage?
I agree. I can forgive this not being sorted for their introduction on GWR and it taking a few weeks to fix, these things happen, but not 18+ months, that's just inexcusable.Sounds like a perfect get out to me as anyone can say that. They`ve had years longer than 18 months and god only knows how much money spent on computer analysts and engineers and yup, It`s still good old paper reservations (when GWR can be bothered to put them out). AFAIK LNER don`t have this problem.
1A82 0900 PNZ-PAD running 5 vice 10, set down only from Plymouth with ticket acceptance on SWR via The Mule to Waterloo and XC up to BPW to connect with other HSS services...
Ouch!
No more HST’s into Paddington.Shame they didn't have a spare HST set available...
Managed to make the news. Hardly surprising, 5 cars to Penzance / Plymouth splitters were always at the risk of this happening.
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/live-police-overcrowded-train-plymouth-2927994
I agree. I can forgive this not being sorted for their introduction on GWR and it taking a few weeks to fix, these things happen, but not 18+ months, that's just inexcusable.
I give up... the SRS system was performing as designed, the files being sent to it caused the majority of the issues.
and? I don't see how that contradicts what you wrote. It may well be the files at fault, but why are they still getting that wrong after all this time?I give up... the SRS system was performing as designed, the files being sent to it caused the majority of the issues.
In the bad old days of HSTs if they were a set short they would of chosen a quiet service to cancel from plymouth (say the 0451 departure , usually restarting from Exeter or bristol etc) and far less damage would be done.If it was a 9-car and the same fault occurred, the train would have been cancelled, of course...
If it was a 9-car and the same fault occurred, the train would have been cancelled, of course...
In the bad old days of HSTs if they were a set short they would of chosen a quiet service to cancel from plymouth (say the 0451 departure , usually restarting from Exeter or bristol etc) and far less damage would be done.
Have the 800s had a few more horsepower liberated in electric mode?
For the above to happen Hitachi are going to need orders in the mean time to keep the production lines open. If dft opt for some stadler rubbish for east Midlands and xc , then I expect Newton aycliffe will be closed and that will be the end of 802 production.
For the above to happen Hitachi are going to need orders in the mean time to keep the production lines open. If dft opt for some stadler rubbish for east Midlands and xc , then I expect Newton aycliffe will be closed and that will be the end of 802 production.
Are you suggesting the 4 car HSTs on the Cardiff-Taunton stoppers should be replaced with 80x units?
They'd be even more expensive and inappropriate then the HSTs.
Looking at the 745 vs. the 802, are you sure 'Stadler rubbish' is the right term? I'm fairly underwhelmed with the AT300 as a product at the moment. Jury's still out on the 745 but honestly, it looks like it may still be a good fit for EMR. With the franchise having been awarded to the same parent company as GA I might even suggest it's quite likely.For the above to happen Hitachi are going to need orders in the mean time to keep the production lines open. If dft opt for some stadler rubbish for east Midlands and xc , then I expect Newton aycliffe will be closed and that will be the end of 802 production.
Saturday afternoon 1st June - end of the school holiday week and 1L90 = the afternoon service from Pembroke Dock to London is only 5 coaches and full & standing at Newport. THIS IS JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH that now the whole fleet is available that we still have 5 coach trains running on busy services. (I also note that fewer trains operate between Cardiff & London on Saturdays v weekdays). So, what is the excuse this time GWR? Could they not join with the other 5 coaches when the section that came from Pembrokeshire arrived in Swansea?
Saturday afternoon 1st June - end of the school holiday week and 1L90 = the afternoon service from Pembroke Dock to London is only 5 coaches and full & standing at Newport. THIS IS JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH that now the whole fleet is available that we still have 5 coach trains running on busy services. (I also note that fewer trains operate between Cardiff & London on Saturdays v weekdays). So, what is the excuse this time GWR? Could they not join with the other 5 coaches when the section that came from Pembrokeshire arrived in Swansea?
On my first 802 outing we were informed this was the case - reservations were explicitly disabled due to it being a short-form.I’ve been on 3 today - a 10-800, a 9-802 and currently on a 10-802; all working in all 3 cases (the latter two for 2+ hour journeys).
On the 5 vice 10 it may be a conscious decision to disable the reservations given only half a train is present. Fairer in the grand scheme than to arbitrarily cancel half the reservations.
It’s possibly a slightly more susceptible service for short-forming as all trains West of Swansea have to be 5 car (9s won’t fit in Carmarthen station). But you’re right that availability really should be better at this point.
From RTT it looks as if the second half of 1L90 never came off Maliphant, as booked. Hitachi don’t usually have any spares there so it would gone forward load 5 as a result. Not ideal.