Bornin1980s
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Will any of these early diagrams pass through Exeter?
Given that Network Rail aren't in the habit of cheerfully accepting sectional timings proposed by TOCs - it has to go through all the modelling regardless - you'd have thought a bit of sensible prioritisation would be in order. But then we are talking about NR.
Will any of these early diagrams pass through Exeter?
When is the latest date for the complete timetable recast to take into account electrification and the IEPs incidentally? I understood it was originally around now but has presumably been put back due to electrification delays.
Guessing it might be when Crossrail opens now as it would save having to rewrite the timetable twice?
Pot and kettle there as well, find me a TOC or FOC that will accept any changes proposed by NR without a huge amount of grief or a formal dispute.
When you think the December 2017 timetable was originally supposed to be based on completed electrification to Swansea, Bristol, Newbury and Oxford, it shows just how far behind the programme the works are.
If Network Rail (for who I presume you work) were in the habit of proposing sensible and/or realistic changes, within accepted timescales and in compliance with the Network Code, Train Planning Rules and limits of flexing, then I suspect the TOCs and FOCs might be a little bit more receptive.
Your comment makes little sense - if it generates 'grief' it's likely because either the proposed amendment doesn't achieve the minimum standards I've just quoted, breaks the resourcing limits (such as traincrew diagrams) the operating company must operate within, or has such a detrimental impact on the timetable that it breaks compliance with the SLC, which a TOC is legally obliged to challenge.
If it goes to formal dispute then ultimately everyone has lost, because it wrecks the planning timescales and becomes a Pyrrhic victory even if the TOC wins. But then no operator would go right to dispute without having a pretty solid argument otherwise they'd end up looking pretty stupid (and non-compliant.) Sounds more like the sour grapes are on your side, my friend.
Oh far from it, we play by the rules but if we propose an amendment to a SRT or TPR value that actually reflects reality, removes ZZ or QA delay and does not cause detrimental issues to the timetable you can bet your backside it won't be immediately accepted.
Will any of these early diagrams pass through Exeter?
They will commence at weekends at the same time (or to be precise, exactly 5 days after) the Mon-Fri services start.
At the weekends though, some of the services operating at the same times as the weekday times listed are extended beyond their weekday terminating/starting points. For instance the Saturdays 1900 service from London Paddington terminates at Taunton rather than Bristol Temple Meads. So will this still be a Super Express train? Also on some weekends the times can be different to the usual weekday departure times, whether they're operating via alternative routes or not. For instance on Saturday 18th November there are London Paddington-Bristol Temple Meads services departing at 1848 and 1928. So which one will be a Super Express train?
I'd like to book a return journey to London Paddington on an upcoming Saturday to get a journey on a Super Express Train there and back. But not so confident these times will be reliable for weekend services, and it could end up just being the usual HST's that I end up getting on.
The new GWR "Five go on a Great Western Adventure" TV advert featuring the 800s has been released this evening, also available on youtube HERE.
Interesting depiction of what I'm led to believe is PNZ (though seemingly simplified to a couple of platforms), looks like an 800 in one platform with a 165/166 next to it.!
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Interesting depiction of what I'm led to believe is PNZ (though seemingly simplified to a couple of platforms), looks like an 800 in one platform with a 165/166 next to it.!
I just tried a few dummy bookings too. On a 1st Advance, it put me in Coach K the first few attempts, then finally got one in Coach D.
0600 BRI-PAD, 16 Oct. It only put me in Coach D when I put my seating preference down as 'backwards'.
Do we know yet how the 10 car iETs are going to be lettered?Just tried a dummy booking for 16th October on the 0600 BRI-PAD. First Class places me in Coach L, which suggests a HST?
Does anyone have the Class 800 seating plan?