richieb1971
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Its a British design and still looks good. I think its a debt we should oay the designers. What do you think?
Eurostar (class 373) is at least partially a British design - the team involved senior GEC people working with Alsthom before they formally joined forces to become GEC-Alsthom and then Alstom.
I think the styling team was also mainly British.
It was also designed for 300km/h non-tilt operation, unlike APT.
But I doubt the Eurostar design carries much weight in Alstom these days.
Rather disappointed in the responses. The train could be made 1.25x bigger if necessary. Dont agree with the dated statement and i dont agree we should have a foreign design on the shell. Dont care what power unit it has.
Rather disappointed in the responses. The train could be made 1.25x bigger if necessary. Dont agree with the dated statement and i dont agree we should have a foreign design on the shell. Dont care what power unit it has.
Rather disappointed in the responses. The train could be made 1.25x bigger if necessary. Dont agree with the dated statement and i dont agree we should have a foreign design on the shell. Dont care what power unit it has.
HS2 (like HS1 before it) can be considered for all intents and purposes an LGV line. “Captive” 400m rolling stock is going to be off-the-shelf.
I’d completely forgotten about them! What a nice thing to have.I love the look of the APT-P and pride of place on my shelf at home is one of those undistributed travel agents' models of the units that BR produced which I obtained from the old collectors corner at Euston. I'm under no illusion that the detailed nose shape is in any way suitable for the higher speeds proposed for HS2 however!
I hate to say it but it’s true: the British don’t make very good trains that are suitable for this day and age really...It seems as usual my post reads like an april fools joke. If there is a british flag on any hs2 train the joke is on you my friends. The fastest trains on the fastest network in the country and its all built to foreign design. One more reason for brits to hate hs2. For 50 billion you would think it would be open season for ideas.
It seems as usual my post reads like an april fools joke.
It seems as usual my post reads like an april fools joke. If there is a british flag on any hs2 train the joke is on you my friends. The fastest trains on the fastest network in the country and its all built to foreign design. One more reason for brits to hate hs2. For 50 billion you would think it would be open season for ideas.
Was going on this in China last week. Doesn't look bad to me:Can someone please post a pic of a train that makes the apt "look" outdated. Id love to see it. The nose is the most identified part if the train so lets stick with that part first. The duck bills are not pleasing to the eye imo. The 800 is just rounder it doesnt look 21st century to me. The 800 is hardly an a4 moment.
Was going on this in China last week. Doesn't look bad to me:
It probably does - I wasn't suggesting this for HS2, just posting a train that looks more modern than the APT as the OP requested. I probably could have just posted an Electrostar though.Looks like it exceeds the maximum nose overhang specified by HS2 (4.2m I think)
It probably does - I wasn't suggesting this for HS2, just posting a train that looks more modern than the APT as the OP requested. I probably could have just posted an Electrostar though.
Ah come on mate, if you stuck an APT next to any number of modern high speed trains it will look dated, especially ones that run on dedicated high speed routes. I can't believe you are serious. That doesn't mean I don't like the APT. As much as I love older trains and the way they look you have to admit that modern streamlining also makes trains more economical and reduces wind noise.Can someone please post a pic of a train that makes the apt "look" outdated. Id love to see it. The nose is the most identified part if the train so lets stick with that part first. The duck bills are not pleasing to the eye imo. The 800 is just rounder it doesnt look 21st century to me. The 800 is hardly an a4 moment.