61653 HTAFC
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Were those two liveries ever concurrent? Wouldn't surprise me if they were, but there was the "Executive" livery in-between.
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Were those two liveries ever concurrent? Wouldn't surprise me if they were, but there was the "Executive" livery in-between.
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How weird. Just to show I am not going mad......
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61653 HTAFC
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Don't wish to sound like I'm moaning, as GWR obviously had no obligation to relivery any power cars, but 185 looks like it's missing something to me without a number below the windscreen.
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It was an Eastern Region thing. Power cars in swallow did have front end numbers, but as you say 43185 was not one of them.
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All three sets there deliberately lined up for an event hosted by GWR MD Mark Hopwood as it is 40 years ago today that the 125mph service started.
Happy birthday HST!
125 Group piece: http://www.125group.org.uk
Grand Central press release re Sunday: https://www.grandcentralrail.com/about-us/news-press/40th-anniversary-of-the-high-speed-train/
Have to say that ALL the HST operators have done a great job in supporting the 40 years events.
That is a good point actually. I went to see it go through Exeter earlier, looked nice. I remember 'executive' coming out in the 80s and I remember the last coaching set in blue and grey I think around 1988 but not sure. I think you might well be right that these two liveries wouldn't have been seen together.
Anyone?
The overlap must be very, very close, in terms of some BR Blue powercars remaining as Swallow appeared, I assume they didn't manage to repaint them all in Exectutive.
The closest I've found so far is a BR Blue powercar at Leeds on July 26th 1987, and a Swallow one at York on September 12th.
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61653 HTAFC
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If the numbers on the front was an Eastern Region thing, that's probably why it seems more "normal" to a Yorkshire lad like me!
That's a good bit of digging.
As an aside I noticed when they were crew training with the 73s in the West Highlands recently that there was an Intercity liveried mk2 in the consist which I assume (maybe wrongly, I don't know) has retained the livery since BR days and is still on the network and that the livery can be traced back to around 1980 when the APT-P came out, that that is one very long lived colour scheme!
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pdeaves
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Ah, that will explain the 125 Group people on platform 1 around 1130 this morning. What a shame I never saw any 'non-FGW' HSTs today!
The intercity swallow livery is just so great.. so good to see it again!
Not the best photo in the world, but the first photo I've ever managed to download onto here
.Shaw S Hunter
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Just to clarify for those that don't know any different: while this week certainly marks the 40th anniversary of the introduction of accelerated timetables operated by HSTs the first diagrammed operation on passenger services happened in July 1976. Today it would be called a soft launch. It was quite exciting to see these "streamliners" mixing in with the remaining Westerns and decidedly ropey ex-LMR 50s. It also spurred many drivers of loco-hauled services to seriously push it and it became a regular thing for down trains to wait more time than normal at Reading thanks to early arrivals. Quite sobering to think that the standard accelerated time for Paddington to Reading start-to-stop was just 22 minutes, even the loco-hauleds were often allowed just 29 minutes. Compare that to today's timetable: such is progress!
59CosG95
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002 is on the First Class end of set OC47, which is today's Old Oak standby having stabled overnight at Worcester and worked 1L28 0707 Worcester SH - Paddington via Swindon. As diagrammed the standby works the 1800 Bristol and 2030 return, but as the standby set it could be stepped up onto any of the evening peak Old Oak departures, or brought off the Oak additionally to replace a failure/severe late runner.
185 is on the First Class end of set OC31 today working 31 diagram - Empties off the marsh for 1G02 0640 Swindon - Cheltenham, 1L36 0831 Cheltenham to Paddington, 1B27 1115 Paddington to Swansea, 1L82 1528 Swansea to Paddington, 1C28 1930 Paddington - Weston and empties back to SPM
PHILIPE
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43002 and 43185 together again, Today, they are working:-
1G02 0640 Swindon to Cheltenham
1L36 08 31 Cheltenham to Paddington.
Post #317 will provide the remainder of the diagram for today. (As quoted for 43185)
1G02 0640 Swindon to Cheltenham
1L36 08 31 Cheltenham to Paddington.
Post #317 will provide the remainder of the diagram for today. (As quoted for 43185)
heart-of-wessex
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PHILIPE
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Today's workings:-
43002 43185 with set LA16 allox
5L14 0545 SPM - Bristol PW
1L14 0657 Bristol PW - Pad
1C76 0906 Pad - Plymouth
1A85 1256 Plymouth - Pa
1C89 1703 Pad - Penzance
5C89 2248 PZ - Long Rock
43002 43185 with set LA16 allox
5L14 0545 SPM - Bristol PW
1L14 0657 Bristol PW - Pad
1C76 0906 Pad - Plymouth
1A85 1256 Plymouth - Pa
1C89 1703 Pad - Penzance
5C89 2248 PZ - Long Rock
221129
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Todays workings are;
1A81 0844 PNZ-PAD
1C18 1430 PAD-WSM
1A27 1710 WSM-PAD
1C96 1945 PAD-PLY
1A81 0844 PNZ-PAD
1C18 1430 PAD-WSM
1A27 1710 WSM-PAD
1C96 1945 PAD-PLY
NSEFAN
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That would have been the 1A81 Penzance - Paddington.cossie4i said:
The set ended up at Laira yesterday evening. Not sure if it made it out in the same formation, however! (i.e. power cars may have been changed).
PHILIPE
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Today's workings:-
1A76 06:55 Plymouth - Paddington
1B28 11:05 Paddington -Swansea
1L76 15:37 Swansea - Paddington
1C96 20:02 Paddington - Plymouth
1A76 06:55 Plymouth - Paddington
1B28 11:05 Paddington -Swansea
1L76 15:37 Swansea - Paddington
1C96 20:02 Paddington - Plymouth
She was swapped off of IW090 due to fleet request, now 1C79 11:02 Padd - Plym and onto Laira.
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