Last BR train, headboard removed "for safety reasons" ! ? !

[Geezertronic]

Simple.
Because it's in their long term interest to do so.

That's rather an arrogant statement to make. Trains will be around whether enthusiasts like them or not. Enthusiasts will be interested in trains regardless otherwise the NRM, Didcot, SVR or other places would not have a market.

 

[Justin Smith]

That's rather an arrogant statement to make. Trains will be around whether enthusiasts like them or not. Enthusiasts will be interested in trains regardless otherwise the NRM, Didcot, SVR or other places would not have a market.

It isn't arrogant at all, in fact I can't see how you come up with that word ? ! ?

Three words, Settle to Carlisle.
It was enthusiasts and those with an affection for rail which, arguably, saved the Settle to Carlisle.
I must say I find is odd that anyone could disagree with the idea that more rail enthusiasts is a positive thing for railways, and as such it`s in the rail industries own interest to encourage it.

 

[Geezertronic]

It isn't arrogant at all, in fact I can't see how you come up with that word ? ! ?

Three words, Settle to Carlisle.
It was enthusiasts and those with an affection for rail which, arguably, saved the Settle to Carlisle.
I must say I find is odd that anyone could disagree with the idea that more rail enthusiasts is a positive thing for railways, and as such it's in the rail industries own interest to encourage it.

I find it arrogant that you expect this of the rail industry. I too have been to places such as the SVR and Telford and I certainly enjoyed myself. But I would not expect that kind of effort from the TOCs or FOCs.

 

[Justin Smith]

I find it arrogant that you expect this of the rail industry. I too have been to places such as the SVR and Telford and I certainly enjoyed myself. But I would not expect that kind of effort from the TOCs or FOCs.

I think there's a breakdown in communication here, I don't expect it at all. Quite the opposite in fact. I'm saying there's no way it'd happen these days, and I think it's incredibly sad. BUT, I can't think of any good reason why it shouldn't happen.

 

[Greenback]

Simple.
Because it's in their long term interest to do so.

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I don't hate H&S, much of it is useful. However, most of the bits that are useful are bleedin' obvious anyway ! As far as I'm aware it used to be based on the concept of "reasonable", e.g. is it reasonable to expect an installer to fit an aerial on his own ? Answer : Yes it's reasonable.
QED

English law relies heavily on the term reasonable. The interpretation of this word in various statutes has caused endless legal argument and has probably mostly benefitted the bank accounts of lawyers!

In answer to the question you posed, is the answer definitely yes? What about factors such as the condition of the roof itself, the weather etc? These are the sorts of things that surely must be looked at as a basic risk asessment?

 

[Justin Smith]

English law relies heavily on the term reasonable. The interpretation of this word in various statutes has caused endless legal argument and has probably mostly benefitted the bank accounts of lawyers!

In answer to the question you posed, is the answer definitely yes? What about factors such as the condition of the roof itself, the weather etc? These are the sorts of things that surely must be looked at as a basic risk asessment?

I'd agree with that, but one installer is just as capable of doing that as two !
It was part of the employment contract that the installers were required to do their own risk assessments and they had to sign to say they were capable of doing that.
I never criticised any of my installers for refusing to do a job on safety grounds. In fact it was more usually the opposite, me telling them they actually shouldn't have done it !

 

[9K43]

THe Green Express that ran from Leeds to Dawlish last Satuday and back again had a headboard on there and back.
We had a class 47 t and T and 13 coaches on for a good day out, and the 47's fair rattled the train along.

 

[9K43]

There is another Green Express going to Edingbro/Dundee on 20/05/10.
his train will be T and T with class 47's, and will have a very safe headboard on the leading loco.
See this link.
http://www.greenexpressrailtours.co.uk/id11.html