what do you base that possible scenario on? i suspect you made it up!
An informed observation my dear friend.
what do you base that possible scenario on? i suspect you made it up!
Despite you threatening to do so on a now locked thread........
Naming names on a public forum is an entirely different thing to contacting someone's manager for bringing their company into disrepute online. Your doing that all by yourself, I don't need to do a thing.
Oh do give it a rest, I used to put your sort in loops and leave them there...
Please don't make me get my keys out again - any more of this and there will be infractions for the pair of you.
Fair enough,but the guy is making comments about stuff he sees on simulations/reads in the Daily Mail/Sun and not what we see in real life every day.Its hard enough doing the job and the **** thats comes with it without having to read comments most every day that slag us off for standing up for our hard won conditions that we hang onto by a thread.I understand where he thinks he's coming from but if it were possible,I would dearly love to get the detractors on here to accompany a driver for a week or two on some crap shifts and then get their honest opinion!
Ban me if you like,but I refuse to be spoken to by someone whose head is so far up his khyber pass that he can taste his dinner twice.
Fair enough,but the guy is making comments about stuff he sees on simulations/reads in the Daily Mail/Sun and not what we see in real life every day..
But you can never tell when and where the next download will come from so it would be so foolish to "reset and go".
It will invariably be picked up anyway as the train would be seen to be stopping out of course.
i think the argument is this. the incident could still be investigated. managers could be swayed by what you post meaning the driver may not get a fair hearing.
maybes not in this instance but in others. secondly everyone of you that has said its ok to name and shame the driver.
from nwo on in every little mistake you make will be publicy mentioned on this forum....dont like it....welll what about the driver?
I'd be happy for any mistake I made at work to be commented on in one of the forums I frequent as part of my profession. It's still my job at the end of day, and whilst I may still make mistakes I don't expect everyone to have shush about it incase other colleagues, managers etc get arsey.
Mistakes can and do happen, even to the most careful driver. But make one and it will stay with you for the rest of your career no matter what you did before and after. It is an indelible stain on your record.
Nonetheless, I still feel that as a professional in whatever you do, you should consider it as part of the job that people will pick up on and berate you for your mistakes. An overrun, a miss-cue on stage, a SPAD, a bad evacuation of a theatre during a fire. I don't have a problem with people pointing it out, as management would be on my arse pretty quickly regardless of the flaw, as everything is logged, double logged and checked through meticulously afterwards and there is still no excuse for making mistakes if you consider yourself properly trained and professional enough for your job.
Do you honestly think that? Do you have any basis for this?i think the argument is this. the incident could still be investigated. managers could be swayed by what you post meaning the driver may not get a fair hearing.
In any instance when the driver reported it? I highly doubt it.maybes not in this instance but in others.
I don't think anyone has said the driver should be named, and I am certain no-one has said the driver should feel any shame, and no-one has stated it was the drivers fault.secondly everyone of you that has said its ok to name and shame the driver.
If someone makes a mistake that results in members of the public being inconvenienced, then they can expect that it may well be the case that members of the public mention it and discuss it.from nwo on in every little mistake you make will be publicy mentioned on this forum....dont like it....welll what about the driver?
Unlike our managers, making a mistakes doesn't mean just hitting the "delete" key or reaching for the Tippex. It means a chat over "tea and biscuits" with the bosses.
O L Leigh
There have been many threads on this forum complaining about the lack of co-operation, and in some cases hosility from rail staff to enthusiasts. Is it any wonder why, when enthusiasts are potentially dropping staff in the brown stuff like this?
Am I missing something here? As rail staff myself I can't see how this thread can possibly be dropping somebody in it. As has already been explained ad nauseum, TRUST/CCF etc would have already flagged the incident up and the driver would've reported it himself anyway!!!!
Do you honestly think that? Do you have any basis for this?
I'd like to hear Ben's basis for the same basic statement.
It can't possibly be true. If any managers read this, and then look up if the incident was logged and find it was, they are hardly going to say the driver should be treated more harshly based on the fact a passenger mentioned the overrun! The idea is quite proposterous!
While I would not agree at all with the drivers name being posted on a forum, or in any way blamed (as we do not know it was the drivers fault), I do not see anything wrong with a member of the public reporting the fact that his train failed to call at a station. The only risk here is if the driver has failed to report it. There is no risk of a driver being treated more harshly by managers, having already reported it, just because a passenger mentioned it!!
In any instance when the driver reported it? I highly doubt it.
I don't think anyone has said the driver should be named, and I am certain no-one has said the driver should feel any shame, and no-one has stated it was the drivers fault.
If someone makes a mistake that results in members of the public being inconvenienced, then they can expect that it may well be the case that members of the public mention it and discuss it.
This topic has only become so large because people wanted it to be hushed up, but I am pretty certain that the driver did act perfectly correctly and reported it at Bushey, so it's a non-issue.
The driver has not been named or in any way blamed.
You're lucky, you get biscuits!
Looks like it's not just LM who miss the odd stop here and there...There appears to be a little bit of punctuation missing from the title of this thread! :razz:LM Service misses stop
Full stops are not supposed to appear at the end of titles.Looks like it's not just LM who miss the odd stop here and there...There appears to be a little bit of punctuation missing from the title of this thread! :razz: