renegademaster
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Do LSL have any steam compatible CDL stock they can rent to west coast?
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There is no love lost between Crewe and Carnforth, so don’t hold your breath!
Yes I think you’re probably right actually.
The_Train
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There is absolutely no way LSL will be helping WCRC. In fact, I would imagine Mr Hosking to be sat rubbing his hands together at what is going on at Carnforth and very much ready to take over their operations, particularly the Jacobite!
Indeed, I bet his 2024 is getting off to one of the best starts he could have imagined. Even were LSL and WCR on talking terms, I don't think there would be any chance of a lending agreement. LSL only have one rake of compliant Mk1s and that's tied up in both Saphos and Steam Dreams operations, so there's no capacity for other uses.
D6130
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Didn't one or more 37 carry almost the same livery (Regional Railways) back in the 1990s for Cambrian, North Wales and Valleys services?
sprinterguy
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There were several Regional Railways liveried 37/4s - 414, 418, 420, 421, 422, 425 and 429, plus 37427 with 'SCOTRAIL' insignia on the RR livery. Dark blue upper body instead of dark grey, silver grey lower bodyside instead of executive light grey, and the 'fleximark' on the cabsides at the end of the Provincial light blue stripe. The stripes on Regional Railways livery also sat lower on the bodyside.
Given their massive investment in their Mk1, 2, 3a and Mk3 HST stock, I’m surprised that a second mk1 rake hasn’t been a priority to increase capacity.
For those that are interested the timings for The West Riding LTD are on RTT
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Alanko
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Spaceship323
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37409 off to Southall now, according to RTT
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Realtime Trains | 5Z82 1020 Crewe H.S. to Southall Loco Services Ltd | 04/02/2024
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The_Train
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I think I saw something earlier that LSL have some route learning in the South East region this week37409 off to Southall now, according to RTT
Realtime Trains | 5Z82 1020 Crewe H.S. to Southall Loco Services Ltd | 04/02/2024
Real-time train running information for 5Z82 1020 departure from Crewe H.S. to Southall Loco Services Ltd on 04/02/2024. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.
fishwomp
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Also had 2x20s and some coaching stock; did not catch which 20s they were.
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ExRes
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20096 & 20107 according to the se gen group
paul1609
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I very much doubt Mr Hosking is directly involved at all.
12LDA28C
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LSL are in the process of creating a (short) second Midland Pullman HST set which will be used on a series of weekend tours to Fort William and Mallaig this summer, marketed as the 'West Highland Pullman', featuring a 2+5 HST set with 2 coaches for FC non-dining, 2 coaches of FC full dining and a kitchen car. Tickets to go on sale very shortly.
Looking to scoop up some of the would-be Jacobite traffic, I suppose.
12LDA28C
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The Jacobite, which is advertised as running for the 2024 season and selling well as I understand it. No reason why it shouldn't run as long as CDL-fitted stock is used.
My bad - I had understood it as the Jacobite would not be running for 2024 because of the CDL issue.
Rail Quest
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Sounds interesting! Does this mean they're finally finding use for the ex-Staycation HST locos and stock or are they forming this with the existing midland pullman stock? I'm assuming the former perhaps?
Iskra
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That’s an interesting venture, I hope it succeeds and I might even go for the ride depending on pick up points
I was told last year they were using the Staycation set as a back-up Midland Pullman set, so I would assume that has come to fruition
12LDA28C
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I believe WCRC has a rake of Mk2s fitted with CDL or there is the option to hire in stock, eg from Riviera if necessary
The existing MP set will still be in use and indeed has a full program of tours planned for 2024.
That’s an interesting venture, I hope it succeeds and I might even go for the ride depending on pick up points
The tours have now gone live today on the website:
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It's great news. I was disappointed to see the three day Scottish tours weren't in their programme this year when it went live in November. Apparently it was influenced by the storm-related closure of the West Highland Line on the very first day of their final three day tour last year, which caused them to take a hefty financial hit. I did two of them last year - the Fort William/Mallaig one and the Inverness/Kyle one, so will definitely be booking on one of them again this year. There are even days where both sets are both out at once eg 18th October.
Whistler40145
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Any news on the Peak?
12LDA28C
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I believe it's progressing well. LSL can be forgiven for not announcing its return to the mainline until they're certain it's fit for traffic.
I was told something the other day that may well be me adding 2 and 2 and making 45 BUT, the quote was that the WSR gala in early June as well as the home fleet and already announced 50033 that 2 class 20s and a 16 wheeled loco all from the same location are due to attend. These will bring themselves in so not being dragged i can't think of anywhere else but Crewe has those three together, LSL do have a good relationship with the line as they keep kettles there for the summer season, they have 4?? 20s now to pick from as well as access to 40013 if the 45 isn't ready also the 45 being seen moving around at a gala would be a good advert for the alleged summer tours, I did say this hypothesis to the person who told me and although he didn't say I was right he also didn't say I was wrong
renegademaster
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WCRC has a MK2 Air con set
Spaceship323
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And how will that work with a steam locomotive?
Whistler40145
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No good if the Steam Locomotive only has Vacuum Brakes