Lothian Buses and ECB Discussion

[FlybeDash8Q400]

I do reckon that ECB is going to get busier
over 1000 new home to be built in haddington.
wallyfords also getting a considerable amount of new homes, although I am not sure how they plan to change the route to serve the new area.
26 and 113 will see a boost if company's get the go ahead for new housing at the top of tranent.

also talks that next service change they will be taking the 26 away from port seton and introducing the 129 from port seton to silverknowes, no word if x26 will still run.

At first a few people might think a new X29 would replace it but Lothian obviously already have an X29. Also Port Seton probably won't get the 129 so I'd expect it to stay as it is for now with regards to the Express Route.

Via Lochend and Ocean Terminal, like First used to do? Seems a bit rum if so...Cockenzie & Port Seton would lose the direct service to Edinburgh city centre!

It wouldn't as the 129 prior to 2011 (not exact on date) ran all the way to Silverknowes via Portobello, City Centre, West End and down to the shops at Silverknowes, It wasn't until then that it was at first terminated at Musselburgh before being extended to OT at the next change (again someone can confirm dates). First then withdrew the route completely with Eve's taking over until it too was cut.

If 29 is successful down to the beach then the potential 129 would probs terminate there too, would also expect to see further reduction in 29 down to every 30 minutes north of Princes Street with 129 also running every 30 minutes.

I personally like the sound of this idea as it brings back a route that was really handy to have, although this time Lothian will need to adjust for it to work.

 

[MrHopefull]

26 does take way to long

 

[MrHopefull]

talking about the 26
there has been talk of changing something about it, because far to often you get about 3 off them running together through musselburgh, and it then holds Portobello up slightly

 

[backontrack]

It wouldn't as the 129 prior to 2011 (not exact on date) ran all the way to Silverknowes via Portobello, City Centre, West End and down to the shops at Silverknowes, It wasn't until then that it was at first terminated at Musselburgh before being extended to OT at the next change (again someone can confirm dates). First then withdrew the route completely with Eve's taking over until it too was cut.

If 29 is successful down to the beach then the potential 129 would probs terminate there too, would also expect to see further reduction in 29 down to every 30 minutes north of Princes Street with 129 also running every 30 minutes.

I personally like the sound of this idea as it brings back a route that was really handy to have, although this time Lothian will need to adjust for it to work.

I see, thanks. It could work, especially with a stop at Craigleith.

 

[overthewater]

Haymarket travel shop is closing down. Not surprising, there should have went for one up by Ryan's bar area.

 

[MrHopefull]

Haymarket travel shop is closing down. Not surprising, there should have went for one up by Ryan's bar area.

was this just put out there ?

 

[overthewater]

I've just gone past the place on a bus and the signs say it's closing down.

 

[Volvodart]

They said on Facebook on 3 July that it was closing the following Saturday.

 

[oldman]

Creating an ECB 129 would be another way of transferring business and revenue from LB to ECB. Otherwise it's a daft idea.

By the way, where are the timetables for the 29th - less than two weeks to go. Sloppy.

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

By the way, where are the timetables for the 29th - less than two weeks to go. Sloppy.

Dunno, I've chased both twitter and customer services up more than once about it and they always respond with a box standard 'soon' answer. Latest call suggested by the end of the week but I wouldn't place any bets on it

 

[MrHopefull]

Dunno, I've chased both twitter and customer services up more than once about it and they always respond with a box standard 'soon' answer. Latest call suggested by the end of the week but I wouldn't place any bets on it

New timetables are in my depot atm
getting handed out to places tomorrow

 

[TheEastCoaster]

Creating an ECB 129 would be another way of transferring business and revenue from LB to ECB. Otherwise it's a daft idea.

By the way, where are the timetables for the 29th - less than two weeks to go. Sloppy.

The only was the 129 would come back (and have it work) is if it did its run down Fillyside and Seafield and continued onto Silverknowes via Granton.

As short lived as the 129 was down Fillyside there's no doubt there's still promise/demand to a link to Seafield park from Portobello/Craigentinny. at the very least if East Coast did this the numbers could increase with not only the handy links but with Ridacard/day ticket access

 

[Auld reekie]

Timetables released.
https://www.lothianbuses.com/news/2018/07/service-change-29-july/

 

[tbtc]

The only was the 129 would come back (and have it work) is if it did its run down Fillyside and Seafield and continued onto Silverknowes via Granton.

As short lived as the 129 was down Fillyside there's no doubt there's still promise/demand to a link to Seafield park from Portobello/Craigentinny. at the very least if East Coast did this the numbers could increase with not only the handy links but with Ridacard/day ticket access

Leith - Portobello has seemed like an uncoordinated link that could benefit from simpler services for a while.

There's the 21 every fifteen minutes (but via the top end of Craigentinny Avenue)... the 49 every twenty minutes (but almost doubling back in Lochend)... there's the 12 that terminates at Seafield (a service that used to run though to Portobello, back in the days of the 2/12).

Nothing from Portobello to the Commercial Street area (which seems busier and busier). Whilst Ocean Terminal has direct services to much of the city, there's no service to the east of the city (beyond the 34 at Lochend).

Timetables released.
https://www.lothianbuses.com/news/2018/07/service-change-29-july/

Cheers for the link - and welcome to the Forum.

Interesting that the East Coast Buses services (to East Lothian and the 139/140 around Dalkeith etc) are on the map, the Lothian County service to South Queensferry is on the map (43/ X43) but the Lothian County services to West Lothian aren't on the map.

Shame the 35 (every fifteen minutes) doesn't co-ordinate with the 300 (every twenty minutes), when they share a long route from the edge of Sighthill to Bristo Place, but I appreciate not everything is possible.

Generally positive stuff though.

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

Interesting that the East Coast Buses services (to East Lothian and the 139/140 around Dalkeith etc) are on the map, the Lothian County service to South Queensferry is on the map (43/ X43) but the Lothian County services to West Lothian aren't on the map.

Not on map as services won't begin until 3 weeks after, so another new map should follow then

 

[kje7812]

Interesting that the East Coast Buses services (to East Lothian and the 139/140 around Dalkeith etc) are on the map, the Lothian County service to South Queensferry is on the map (43/ X43) but the Lothian County services to West Lothian aren't on the map.

Shame the 35 (every fifteen minutes) doesn't co-ordinate with the 300 (every twenty minutes), when they share a long route from the edge of Sighthill to Bristo Place, but I appreciate not everything is possible.

Generally positive stuff though.

Maybe because there's a gap between this timetable change and when the west lothian services start.

The 34 and 35 overlap from Heriot-Watt to Semple Street so coordinating these make more sense.

 

[tbtc]

Not on map as services won't begin until 3 weeks after, so another new map should follow then

Maybe because there's a gap between this timetable change and when the west lothian services start

Oops - apologies - I'd naively assumed that all of the changes would be with effect from the same date - hadn't bothered to check!

This will be a "limited edition" map then!

The 34 and 35 overlap from Heriot-Watt to Semple Street so coordinating these make more sense.

True - and I appreciate that not everything can co-ordinate with everything else on such a complex network - at least there are some areas where they've improved it in recent years (even if its meant cutbacks to some services) - like the 33/49 from the Hospital (RIE/ERI) to Dalkeith, the 19/34 to Lochend - but then others where it doesn't tie up (like the 300/400 from Sighthill to the Airport) - as I say, I accept that it'd be impossible to get everything to co-ordinate though.

 

[overthewater]

300 And 400 do coordinate on saturdays.

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

and 200 and 400 coordinate during the week. 200 leaving 08 and 38, 400 leaving at 23 and 53

 

[alexf380]

Something that's slipped by the proof readers, they still have the 18 listed as terminating at the Gyle.

 

[Lothian_Bus]

As ever I am fascinated by the minor changes to the 44 with this being a service operated by more than one depot. I see several references to Elm Row journeys so wonder if Central is taking on a portion of the 44 route. Longstone is still referenced so could Central possibly be taking on the Marine portion? Another option (unlikely) is that all three depots could be running the 44.

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

Central is indeed getting Marine's chunk of the 44

Yea I've noticed the error with the 18. They won't bother changing it as there's a new one 3 weeks later anyway

 

[Lothian_Bus]

Central is indeed getting Marine's chunk of the 44

Yea I've noticed the error with the 18. They won't bother changing it as there's a new one 3 weeks later anyway

Thanks for confirming about the 44.

 

[smtglasgow]

Lothian again showing how to build up a service gradually over time by adding later journeys on the 36. They’ve done this with the 24 and 29 (and others, no doubt) – should be used as examples for management trainees at the big groups.

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

my word 41 looks atrocious. not surprised that a 7900 doesn't suit this livery at all

https://twitter.com/MdLothian/status/1019954443423485953?s=19

 

[Bungle965]

my word 41 looks atrocious. not surprised that a 7900 doesn't suit this livery at all

https://twitter.com/MdLothian/status/1019954443423485953?s=19

Good to hear that they have added more padding into the seats, I think that would have had to be my biggest issue with that bus, by the time you have competed a journey of any substantial length you walk off the bus in some discomfort. They are almost as bad as those god awful Urban 90 seats.
Sam

 

[route101]

No ECB or Lothian Country timetables at the Waverley bridge shop today.

 

[Darklord8899]

my word 41 looks atrocious. not surprised that a 7900 doesn't suit this livery at all

https://twitter.com/MdLothian/status/1019954443423485953?s=19

I quite agree, that style of livery on those buses is just boke

 

[kje7812]

Agreed. I think if the red didn't go on the roof bit and it was just white, that would be better. The previous livery suits them so much better.

 

[sam120]

Then there’s me who thinks it looks nice haha.