Lothian Buses and ECB Discussion

[sam120]

Strange observation, but i saw that centrals 324 has got a trident style ‘stopping’ sign. would this be taken out of a trident or is it just a lookalike?

 

[Jordan Adam]

Strange observation, but i saw that centrals 324 has got a trident style ‘stopping’ sign. would this be taken out of a trident or is it just a lookalike?

They've likely taken what they can off the Tridents for other buses, so it probably has come from one.

 

[sam120]

They've likely taken what they can off the Tridents for other buses, so it probably has come from one.

so in short it’s a money saving thing then?

 

[Jordan Adam]

so in short it’s a money saving thing then?

Yes, however it's pretty standard practice and a working PSVAR complaint stopping sign is better than a sign that says something along the lines of "s oppi g".

 

[ScotRail158725]

213 sat on Marine entry ramp this mroning with the logo and Lothian lettering on instead of Lothian City. Could they be getting rid of Lothian city branding from the XLBs aswell?

 

[sam120]

213 sat on Marine entry ramp this mroning with the logo and Lothian lettering on instead of Lothian City. Could they be getting rid of Lothian city branding from the XLBs aswell?

depending on how long they were travelling for, that’s still a profit especially if it was all cash.

 

[VioletEclipse]

213 sat on Marine entry ramp this morning with the logo and Lothian lettering on instead of Lothian City. Could they be getting rid of Lothian city branding from the XLBs aswell?

Well that didn't last very long... Goodness me can't Lothian stop changing their mind ALL THE TIME? It does make a very varied fleet, which isn't too bad for bus enthusiasts.

 

[Jordan Adam]

Well that didn't last very long... Goodness me can't Lothian stop changing their mind ALL THE TIME? It does make a very varied fleet, which isn't too bad for bus enthusiasts.

Next they'll be changing the colours on the livery to Lime Green and bright pink and demanding all new buses are 3 door Citaro G's!

 

[VioletEclipse]

Next they'll be changing the colours on the livery to Lime Green and bright pink and demanding all new buses are 3 door Citaro G's!

Ha Honestly though, in 2016 the thought of dual door coaches for West Lothian and 100-seat tri-axle dual door Alexander Dennis buses seemed about as likely as pink and green Citaro Gs.

On a slightly different subject, what is the likelihood of another Vintage Running Day alongside open doors day in September?

 

[Lothian285]

On a slightly different subject, what is the likelihood of another Vintage Running Day alongside open doors day in September?

Lothian have confirmed on social media that there will be another vintage running day in September alongside doors open day.

 

[VioletEclipse]

Lothian have confirmed on social media that there will be another vintage running day in September alongside doors open day.

Thank you for saying Looking forward to it already!

 

[ScotRail158725]

112 has been showen, lothian also say its part of he vintage fleet which meams 664, 112 & 701 are staying

 

[Big Ralphie]

Interesting development in the on going dispute between lothian and the unions now that 94% of workers clearly not happy wonder now if there will be a appitte for strike action!

 

[overthewater]

Interesting development in the on going dispute between lothian and the unions now that 94% of workers clearly not happy wonder now if there will be a appitte for strike action!

If First does start its so called new service to Airport or south side, there will have a field day.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

If First does start its so called new service to Airport or south side, there will have a field day.

I don't even know if it's a so-called service Just idle speculation by people.

 

[overthewater]

I had the delight of an X18 this evening, lets just say it got alot of passengers within Edinburgh area, and 16 going to WL, however all were cash fares. First had slightly more going to WL, I would be very surprised if there weren't all NON cash fares.

I don't even know if it's a so-called service Just idle speculation by people.

X23, 24, 25 and 38 will have field day on there own

 

[VioletEclipse]

112 has been shown, lothian also say its part of he vintage fleet which means 664, 112 & 701 are staying

Lothian have done a great job with 112, it looks absolutely fantastic. Weird to think I travelled on it only last year and now it's in the vintage fleet.

 

[alchemy]

If they vote for a strike, appaerntly it wont affect the subsidiarys like ECB ,tours or Lothian Country

 

[OmniCity999]

If they vote for a strike, appaerntly it wont affect the subsidiarys like ECB ,tours or Lothian Country

Lothian Country, East Coast Buses, Edinburgh Bus Tours and Lothian Coaches are all different companies, it's the city drivers (Lothian Buses) who voted for the strike not the subsidiaries.

 

[OmniCity999]

928 is now a Livingston Bus. TB103 is based at Livingston short term.

 

[alchemy]

Lots of stuff at Seafield today. 112 664, 3 I think, ex London gemins with 2 doors, 6 coaches in Lothian Country from 920x group,
2 at least 19 plate motorcoaches and 1 11 plate motorcoach, some unidendifiable motor coaches, 730 and finally 115 with a few bits missing.

 

[alchemy]

Lothian Country, East Coast Buses, Edinburgh Bus Tours and Lothian Coaches are all different companies, it's the city drivers (Lothian Buses) who voted for the strike not the subsidiaries.

So no field day for first it would seem.

 

[ScotRail158725]

Lots of stuff at Seafield today. 112 664, 3 I think, ex London gemins with 2 doors, 6 coaches in Lothian Country from 920x group,
2 at least 19 plate motorcoaches and 1 11 plate motorcoach, some unidendifiable motor coaches, 730 and finally 115 with a few bits missing.

730 is getting debranded for sale, 115 is spares for the other Eclipses its been there for more or less a year now

 

[OmniCity999]

So no field day for first it would seem.

Strictly speaking, if they were to go for the strike Lothian could drop service quality within Lothian Country, East Coast Buses, Edinburgh Bus Tours and Lothian Coaches to allow Lothian to run a reduced, core service with core routes such as Royal Infirmary, College/University Services, Shopping Centre Services 11, 16, 22, 26, 49, 25, 100 etc.

 

[SpeedbirdA350]

Strictly speaking, if they were to go for the strike Lothian could drop service quality within Lothian Country, East Coast Buses, Edinburgh Bus Tours and Lothian Coaches to allow Lothian to run a reduced, core service with core routes such as Royal Infirmary, College/University Services, Shopping Centre Services 11, 16, 22, 26, 49, 25, 100 etc.

I also suspect they would run to either a Sunday service or even a Special service (ie Christmas day service style) but I guess it depends if there is strike action and if there is, what type it would be. In the chippy rag, it said 94% indicated support for action but does anyone know how many drivers are member of unite and thus how many indicated support for? Knowing how many would be willing to work would give a better idea on the type of service to expect if this does happen.

Without knowing the full details (I am not really clued in to it if there is full details out there), it's hard to know if this is just the unions banging their drum, making noise and trying to show the drivers who pay in to unions that they are doing work or if they are actually trying to solve something. 2005 was clear as it was about pay but this time, it to me seems murky as to their reason. Plus, unite have failed to give figures too. I know there were bullying acusations but that was 6 months ago or so.

 

[ScotRail158725]

New XLB 1106 seen in the Dennis factory in Falkirk, how many are in this batch?

 

[OmniCity999]

New XLB 1106 seen in the Dennis factory in Falkirk, how many are in this batch?

The next batch of XLB's will take the XLB count well into the high 80's im told.

 

[ScotRail158725]

B7 Allocation (19/04/2019)
No changes since my last post here

B7 Allocation (10/04/2019)
LS- 702-708, 711-718, 721, 724-725, 738-739, 768, 771, 775, 778, 780-781, 784, 788-789, 793, 801-811, 814, 819-820, 825
CE- 769-770, 773-774, 776-777, 782-783, 785, 792, 812, 823-824
MA- 746-767, 772, 786-787, 790-791, 813, 815-818, 821-822
W- 709, 719, 726-737, 742-745, 779
??- 710, 720-721, 723, 740-741 <- Havent been out in a while but are still in their depot (ive seen all them in their depots in the last week)

However 322 Central -> Longstone, im unsure why this move has taken place. I will give an update on B7s as soon as i see any changes

 

[ScotRail158725]

The next batch of XLB's will take the XLB count well into the high 80's im told.

Any idea the routes their for?

 

[OmniCity999]

Any idea the routes their for?

i'm led to believe they are to be more city centre "People Munchers". Central High Capacity Routes.

Rumours on social media and between enthusiasts are that some are for Airlink which i don't personally believe, i work for the company myself and we haven't been told that any are for Airlink or not.

Although i am led to believe the next batch will be ready June time and will first see service with the Royal Highland Show 98's, with miscellaneous B5's being used for 97's and both seeing service on both routes as their interworked.