Manchester Metrolink master thread

[sheff'd victoria]

Ive been speaking again to the people who run Friends of Glossop Station on Twitter, sounds like they are not to happy with TfGM not keeping them in the loop about what there plans are for this line.

Came across quite clearly that they are dead against it and will work with the Friends Of The Woodhead Route to stop any trams running on the Glossop/Hadfield line

 

[YorkshireBear]

Ive been speaking again to the people who run Friends of Glossop Station on Twitter, sounds like they are not to happy with TfGM not keeping them in the loop about what there plans are for this line.

Came across quite clearly that they are dead against it and will work with the Friends Of The Woodhead Route to stop any trams running on the Glossop/Hadfield line

Keep up the good work on that. That line is not for trams. FAR too far out.

 

[rebmcr]

Keep up the good work on that. That line is not for trams. FAR too far out.

It's shorter than Rochdale via Oldham!

 

[61653 HTAFC]

It's shorter than Rochdale via Oldham!

In terms of route miles, yeah- but the Glossop/Hadfield end is I imagine a fair bit further away from Manchester city centre, not to mention being beyond the boundary of Greater Manchester. The Rose Hill line seems to be a more likely use for tram/train in GM.

 

[gnolife]

In terms of route miles, yeah- but the Glossop/Hadfield end is I imagine a fair bit further away from Manchester city centre, not to mention being beyond the boundary of Greater Manchester. The Rose Hill line seems to be a more likely use for tram/train in GM.

Would you have it running on the line via Reddish North, have it come off the mainline somewhere near Belle Vue, and run down Alan Turing Way to join the Droylsden line somewhere betwen Velopark and Etihad Campus, or would you have it take over the line through Miles Platting and work round to Victoria that way?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

The BBC local TV news this morning made reference to the Trafford Centre line extension project plans to see if the business case would pass muster on this stated £350 million extension to the Manchester Metrolink system.

 

[radamfi]

The BBC local TV news this morning made reference to the Trafford Centre line extension project plans to see if the business case would pass muster on this stated £350 million extension to the Manchester Metrolink system.

Does the centre plan to contribute to the scheme?

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Does the centre plan to contribute to the scheme?

Being the BBC and its usual lack of attention to detail, you surely would not have expected them to feature this point that you raise in the brief "snippet" of time they allowed for this to be broadcast.

I am sure that we may have one or two usual forum members who will be aware what is in the documentation that will be the subject of analysis the need requirements of the business case.

 

[sheff'd victoria]

Keep up the good work on that. That line is not for trams. FAR too far out.

In terms of route miles, yeah- but the Glossop/Hadfield end is I imagine a fair bit further away from Manchester city centre, not to mention being beyond the boundary of Greater Manchester. The Rose Hill line seems to be a more likely use for tram/train in GM.

Reading between the lines its seems TfGM wants to make the Glossop/Hadfield line a tram route and then build a large Park & Ride somewhere near Dinting, if no one knows this area it's where two main trans pennine roads meet ( A57 & A628 ), this leads to traffic bedlam most days.

Some links below about this issues
http://www.mjpatch.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/
http://www.nwtar.org.uk/perspectives_09june.php
http://www.transportplanning.mottmac.com/projects/developmentplanning/tintwistlebypassscheme/

 

[radamfi]

If you look at the early Metrolink proposals in the mid 80s (scans of publicity available on SSC) the Glossop and Rose Hill lines were shown as ones to be converted.

 

[transmanche]

Being the BBC and its usual lack of attention to detail, you surely would not have expected them to feature this point that you raise in the brief "snippet" of time they allowed for this to be broadcast.

I don't see the need to add irrelevant anti-BBC comments.

It's a small item in a short news bulletin and most people are probably not interested in that level of detail. I doubt any other broadcaster would have done it any differently.

 

[dggar]

Being the BBC and its usual lack of attention to detail, you surely would not have expected them to feature this point that you raise in the brief "snippet" of time they allowed for this to be broadcast.

I am sure that we may have one or two usual forum members who will be aware what is in the documentation that will be the subject of analysis the need requirements of the business case.

Paul
this post on SSC may help:-

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=105596867&postcount=32933

 

[Darren R]

Originally Posted by Paul Sidorczuk
Being the BBC and its usual lack of attention to detail, you surely would not have expected them to feature this point that you raise in the brief "snippet" of time they allowed for this to be broadcast.

I don't see the need to add irrelevant anti-BBC comments.

It's a small item in a short news bulletin and most people are probably not interested in that level of detail. I doubt any other broadcaster would have done it any differently.

I agree with Paul on this one - I would think most people would want to know how much it will cost and who's paying! (And it would only have taken them an extra couple of seconds to tell us!)

 

[transmanche]

I agree with Paul on this one - I would think most people would want to know how much it will cost and who's paying! (And it would only have taken them an extra couple of seconds to tell us!)

And in a 2 minute news bulletin, which story would you drop in order to add that detail?

 

[Manchester77]

Ok onto metrolink!

Cornbrook was a terminus for the first time today. Apparently it all worked well after 0930 before then wasn't so smooth but after ran like clockwork

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

I don't see the need to add irrelevant anti-BBC comments. It's a small item in a short news bulletin and most people are probably not interested in that level of detail. I doubt any other broadcaster would have done it any differently.

A project with a cost figure of £350 million is rather more than a "small item", whatever way you look at it.

 

[transmanche]

A project with a cost figure of £350 million is rather more than a "small item", whatever way you look at it.

When your news area is the size of NW England and you've got a short 2 minute bulletin; whichever way you look at it, all news items are going to be brief.

 

[familyguy99]

Fatality at Freehold Metrolink stop

A pensioner has died after walking into the path of a tram at the Freehold Metrolink stop.

Peter Cushing, TfGM's Metrolink Director, said: "At 5pm this evening, we received a report of a man walking from the platform at Freehold Metrolink stop into the path of a tram arriving at the stop.

"Services between Victoria and Rochdale were suspended and the emergency services were contacted immediately.

"Unfortunately, despite the efforts of everyone on site, the man passed away a short time later.

"Our deepest sympathies go to his friends and family at this time. The driver of the tram involved will be offered counselling."

Metrolink services between Manchester Victoria and Rochdale will be suspended until Greater Manchester Police give their approval for services to resume.

http://www.tfgm.com/Corporate/media_centre/Pages/News.aspx?articleId=289

thoughts are with man family and driver who was driving the tram when this happen.

Not to sure if it was this tram that man got hit or on Manchester side of platform.


Metrolink tram sit at Freehold stop
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Here some picture of Ashton Under Lyne stop that I took this afternoon, everything look ready to open and surely it next three months we should see tram service running to Ashton, hopefully.


Ashton Under Lyne Metrolink stop


Looking at Ashton Under Lyne stop


Metrolink sign at Ashton stop

Well they was one tram went to Ashton couple of weeks ago.


Tram testing is underway

Two crossover at Ashton stop


second crossover outside Aidl store


Crossover outside Aidl store

Line then head off to Droylsden and Manchester


Metrolink line crossing Wellington Road (Ashton)

 

[LNW-GW Joint]

Grumbles this morning on Test Match Special about tram service failures after yesterday's play at Old Trafford. "Something dangling from the wires".
Anybody know what the problems were?

 

[Manchester77]

Two things:
The wires fell on top of 3044 at Crumpsall last night. Services were operating as normal this morning.
A car hit a tram again on Mosley Street.

The latter was outside of metrolinks control and the former didn't affect the main cricket event.
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Ideally if TMS had made it to Old Trafford we could take advantage of Old Traffords three tram long platforms with a single in front and a double at the rear. Single can head off earlier as it'll fill up quicker.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

The wires fell on top of 3044 at Crumpsall last night. Services were operating as normal this morning.

What was the reason why the wires fell on top of the tram ?

 

[Midlandman]

Grumbles this morning on Test Match Special about tram service failures after yesterday's play at Old Trafford. "Something dangling from the wires".
Anybody know what the problems were?

No problems straight after close of play - play finished at 6.30, we were on a tram heading for Altrincham at 7pm. However, I crossed the line at Navigation Road at about 10pm and two trams went past heading for Altrincham in close succession, so things were still a bit disjointed then.

 

[Manchester77]

What was the reason why the wires fell on top of the tram ?

I don't know Paul I think it could be down to the heat but I'm not sure

3040 was involved in the RTC at Mosley Street yesterday

 

[andyb2706]

Ideally if TMS had made it to Old Trafford we could take advantage of Old Traffords three tram long platforms with a single in front and a double at the rear. Single can head off earlier as it'll fill up quicker.

I think the Metrolink needs to speak to the BBC and get them to change the name of Test Match Special because your mention of TMS confused me for a moment

 

[Manchester77]

A derailment at Queens Road has resulted in service disruption.

Due to a technical fault near Victoria station services are operating between Bury and Crumpsall only in both directions.

A replacement service is operating between Crumpsall and Victoria and Metrolink tickets and passes will be accepted on the 135 bus service.

A service is running between Droylsden and Victoria

A service is running between Bury and Crumpsall.

A service is running between Altrincham and Piccadilly.

A service is running between Rochdale and East Didsbury.

We're all puzzled to why they say its a technical fault however. I also imagine that the Smedley Junction will see use tonight and tomorrow while the Bury line connection is out of use

 

[table38]

A derailment at Queens Road has resulted in service disruption.

Some piccies here: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/metrolink-tram-derails-blocking-line-5582994

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Some piccies here: http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/metrolink-tram-derails-blocking-line-5582994

The tram certainly chose the best place to cause the maximum disruption over both running lines...:roll:

 

[Manchester77]

Was said on SCC that there have been 3 derailments recently at those points. However the bury line is suspended this weekends so I'm thinking for the Victoria works and tinkering with these point (as well as probably some work at Queens Road stop and removal of temporary speed limits)

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

For how many more of the weekends to come will there be service disruptions caused by operational/infrastructural works?

 

[Manchester77]

I don't know this is the first time the full Bury Line has been closed for a while though! They're replacing some track at Whitefield too.

Erm they'll probably need a closure while they test TMS at Trafford Bar and the SML junction. That will probably see no Altrincham line and SML running East Didsbury - Firswood. In the next roll out (which covers the SML junction) I don't know how far TMS will extend down the Altrincham line, ideally it go at least to Old Trafford so that the crossover could be used in the event of disruption/math days for specials.