richieb1971
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Because no LNER services will stop at Sandy.
Because no LNER services will stop at Sandy.
Precisely.In the current services, no. However it could be that in a post HS2 service pattern that there could be some.
I think it is pincushioning of the image, - note how the lamp posts on either side lean away from the centre of the picture.I think it might be the author's camera lens; notice how the lamppost to the right of shot bends slightly.
I think it might be the author's camera lens; notice how the lamppost to the right of shot bends slightly.
Why wouldn't Bedford passengers change onto the ECML at Sandy on EWR?
Because no LNER services will stop at Sandy.
In the current services, no. However it could be that in a post HS2 service pattern that there could be some.
Precisely.
There was at one point talk of EWR trains directly up the MML - say running Reading/Oxford to Leicester and Nottingham - which I think is far more interesting for the South/E Midlands in terms of reducing car journeys and creating new city pairs - than a slightly quicker Leeds service.Bedford will connect ewr and will have zero direct connection to the north. It also has bottlenecks south of Bedford. The only option is to start a northern service from Bedford or allow stp trains to stop at Bedford and continue to the north.
That would be possible by swapping this proposed new working with the Nottingham semi-fast so you'd have a London to Leeds via Leicester and Toton (but end-to-end passengers would use HS2 instead) and an EWR to Nottingham. To me this seems an attractive idea, but Midlands Connect probably don't want to get too involved with service patterns outside their own area so may just have suggested what is simplest.There was at one point talk of EWR trains directly up the MML - say running Reading/Oxford to Leicester and Nottingham - which I think is far more interesting for the South/E Midlands in terms of reducing car journeys and creating new city pairs - than a slightly quicker Leeds service.
The Future - Midlands Engine Rail (Midlands Connect) & HS2
- Electrification proposed from Market Harborough to Leicester, Loughborough, Nottingham & Derby; as part of the Midlands Connect strategy.
- Electrification proposed from Clay Cross HS2 Connection to Sheffield (Midland) as part of HS2 works.
- Currently, no electrification is proposed between Clay Cross HS2 Connection & Nottingham, or Tupton & Derby (via Belper).
Any updates would be greatly appreciated.
Absolutely crazy.
Franchise holders don't generally contribute to that sort of project, other than simple/quick things like station refurbishments. Anything bigger is rarely completed during a franchise term, so the franchisee would see no return on their spending. Two exceptions, Chiltern with the Evergreen projects and TfW currently, both involve much longer franchises.Not really.
HS2 need electrification from Clay Cross. I presume they pay (and let's not forget they are under pressure at the moment!)
Midlands connect want it from Harborough to meet HS2 at Toton for their proposed service. I presume they pay, with a contribution from MML TOC who will also benefit
So the beneficiaries of the remaining gaps then need to make the case.
I do accept that, in effect, it's all currently different government funding streams. Maybe if longer post HS2 MML franchise was awarded they could see it to at least make a contribution themselves in some form. If the benefit is big enough, otherwise we should be prioritising other projects where it is.
Franchise holders don't generally contribute to that sort of project, other than simple/quick things like station refurbishments. Anything bigger is rarely completed during a franchise term, so the franchisee would see no return on their spending. Two exceptions, Chiltern with the Evergreen projects and TfW currently, both involve much longer franchises.
Might it have been a preliminary ground investigation?I am confused....I went along to see what progress has been made on the Braybrooke Substation site ....and they appear to have filled it in and there is no sign of any more work.....View attachment 68992 Ref post 3103 for previous view.
Delayed until next year.. https://harboroughfm.co.uk/construction-of-giant-power-plant-delayed/I am confused....I went along to see what progress has been made on the Braybrooke Substation site ....and they appear to have filled it in and there is no sign of any more work.. Ref post 3103 for previous view.
Construction of a giant electricity substation beside the railway in Braybrooke has been delayed until next Spring.
Work had been due to start work anytime now on land off Harborough Road, but National Grid still needs to appoint a main contractor and address ecological aspects of the project.
The facility, which will be the size of one and half football pitches, will provide power for the electrification of the railway between Market Harborough and Kettering and beyond, and take around 18 months to build.
How large are the photos? It might be worth compressing them.Lots of work carried out at Wellingborough overnight, Two new ohle stanchions erected on the down main platform (south end), one is actually behind the platform in the square gap between the bus shelters.
Currently also installing the first stanchion on the new southbound platform and work is progressing on extending the short freight line platform northwards.
Took some pictures but the site says they are too large.
In the current services, no. However it could be that in a post HS2 service pattern that there could be some.
Not a chance - the point everyone keeps missing about EWR is that it's not about providing connectivity between lines.
From Cambridge, for example, it'll still be easier to head to Peterborough via existing services to access the ECML. From Milton Keynes - it'll still be easier to head via Birmingham, Nuneaton or Tamworth to access Leeds, York or Newcastle.
Bedford really isn't a place of any significance and Sandy is even less so. ECML stops will stay as Stevenage and Peterborough. Even pre-ECML electrification the only other place which saw regular long distance services that doesn't now is Huntingdon - and that was because most of the Hitchin shuttle DMUs terminated there so the semi-fasts provided the link between Huntingdon & Peterborough - once electrification arrived Huntingdon lost the "long distance" services in place of a vastly better (i.e. more frequent and quicker) EMU service between Peterborough & KX.
with the new monorail thingy from parkway to the airport,it would not take a genius to work out that that could be extended to stevenage,for a connection to ECML(about 8km away as the crow flies),
That would save nearly an hour of transit time against present public transport road connections between the two towns.(the 101 takes about 1hr 10 mins from luton centre to stevenage rail station),more if you plan to travel futher by rail only ...
I would reckon a light rail link could do the journey in 15 mins. maybe less
perhaps even onwards to bishops stortford and stansted, and through the town centre the other way toward leighton(would be better as a connection to watford junction in truth)
That people mover is costing £225m for 1.3miles, on land largely within the airport’s ownership. That’s more expensive than HS2, with all its tunnels, viaducts expensive land and new stations. It would not take a genius to work out how such a system couldn’t possibly be viable for an extension to Luton town, let alone Stevenage / Stansted etc.
It's not. As I posted just above it's a Doppelmayr cable-hauled system similar to Birmingham Airport. Its length is limited by the length of the cable but also becasuse each track can only have one vehicle, so the longer it gets the less frequent the service.if it is a toulouse metro-type light transit system, then those lines are about 20km long each, and the vehicles rubber tyred.
gradients not so much of an issue.
Easily capable enough.
the line could alternatively be extended to j10 of the M1 when the new shopping/media complex gets built(extra revenue needed for power court football ground move), and then toward the back of dunstable.
that would help relieve a lot of the bottlenecks on the A505 and relief road roundabouts respectively.
That people mover is costing £225m for 1.3miles, on land largely within the airport’s ownership. That’s more expensive than HS2, with all its tunnels, viaducts expensive land and new stations. It would not take a genius to work out how such a system couldn’t possibly be viable for an extension to Luton town, let alone Stevenage / Stansted etc.
I disagree.
bedford at present is a place of large significance(not as much as luton though t.b.f)
it is an interchange point between what should be ECML(not there),MML,WCML (not at a metro/IC hub station)and further afield to cambridge and oxford once EWR is built.
it has both metropolitan and intercity trains using it.
It should connect to other mainlines that also have metropolitan/intercity hub status.
theere is frankly much,much room for improvement.
The present development of EWR to go via sandy/bletchley is in my opinion absolutely myopic thinking.They are concentrating on initial outlay instead of footfall.
East west connectivity is desperately needed,but must be done right.
you could say the same of luton though. with the new monorail thingy from parkway to the airport,it would not take a genius to work out that that could be extended to stevenage,for a connection to ECML(about 8km away as the crow flies),
That would save nearly an hour of transit time against present public transport road connections between the two towns.(the 101 takes about 1hr 10 mins from luton centre to stevenage rail station),more if you plan to travel futher by rail only ...
I would reckon a light rail link could do the journey in 15 mins. maybe less
perhaps even onwards to bishops stortford and stansted, and through the town centre the other way toward leighton(would be better as a connection to watford junction in truth)
But Bedford will almost certainly lose its direct trains to the East Midlands