Moving Derailed freight wagons

[petersi]

Program on BBC 2 yesterday showed crane operators retrieving two derailed concrete wagons near Dartford.

The crane had to come from Liverpool due to the need for the reach from stable ground.

How would they retrieve the wagons if the location was even less accessible ?
Are there still rail mounted cranes for this ?

 

[asylumxl]

Program on BBC 2 yesterday showed crane operators retrieving two derailed concrete wagons near Dartford.

The crane had to come from Liverpool due to the need for the reach from stable ground.

How would they retrieve the wagons if the location was even less accessible ?
Are there still rail mounted cranes for this ?

I believe so. Unfortunately their lifting capacity is limited, as seen by the derailed 66 near Oban in Scotland. It could not be safely recovered in a whole so has been written off and cut up on site.

 

[Lrd]

It could not be safely recovered in a whole so has been written off and cut up on site.

It was still on site when I passed a few months ago, just under a sheet of tarpaulin.

 

[sprinterguy]

I believe so. Unfortunately their lifting capacity is limited, as seen by the derailed 66 near Oban in Scotland. It could not be safely recovered in a whole so has been written off and cut up on site.

The Network Rail breakdown and recovery cranes can each lift a maximum of 75 tonnes. There are four such rail cranes on the network, and three complete breakdown & recovery rakes: One allocated to each of Knottingley, Wigan and Bescot, plus a spare crane formerly allocated to Old Oak Common I believe.

The greater obstacles to the recovery of 66734 were the stability of the track formation and the positioning of the locomotive a fairly large distance from the running line where it came to rest. Also note that 66734 did not derail near Oban. The loco derailed above the shores of Loch Treig on the Fort William branch of the West Highland line between Corrour and Tulloch.
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It was still on site when I passed a few months ago, just under a sheet of tarpaulin.

Latest update on the following thread is that it has recently been cut up and disposed of:
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=69650
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How would they retrieve the wagons if the location was even less accessible ?

The derailment of a class 156 on the Oban branch near Falls of Cruachan back in 2010 required quite a complex recovery operation which illustrates how inventive solutions sometimes have to be in difficult to access locations:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10295107
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falls_of_Cruachan_derailment

On 9 June, it was reported that a 1,000-tonne crane would be brought in by road from Carlisle to remove the derailed carriages on 10 June. The A85 at Falls of Cruachan was in effect on a bridge along the shore of Loch Awe and the engineers were looking at a number of methods to alleviate the problems with using such a large vehicle on the road. The carriage left overhanging the embankment was to be recovered by road, whilst the other was to be recovered by rail. A road crane had to be used as there was insufficient room available to use a rail-mounted crane. An option to use a helicopter to remove the carriages was ruled out due to the weight of the carriages at 35 tonnes each.

 

[Lrd]

Latest update on the following thread is that it has recently been cut up and disposed of:
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=69650

I managed to miss that, cheers for the update.

 

[DarloRich]

You also have the BRUFF teams for recovery work

 

[The Snap]

Not necessarily for recovering rail vehicles, but my employer certainly have the means the lifting things!

http://www.volkerrail.co.uk/en/capabilities/detail/kirow-2508101200-rail-mounted-cranes

 

[Cruithne3753]

"Fright wagons"? I suppose they'd just have to close the ghost train for the day...

 

[Teaboy1]

Not necessarily for recovering rail vehicles, but my employer certainly have the means the lifting things!

http://www.volkerrail.co.uk/en/capabilities/detail/kirow-2508101200-rail-mounted-cranes

They do indeed, I watched and videoed them replacing track panels on Brookhouse Viaduct with this very contraption last year. Proper piece of kit .... so long as its not at 90 deg to the tracks!!

 

[High Dyke]

I believe that the Bescot Crane was summoned to assist with the recovery at Barrow-in-Furness last week.

 

[DarloRich]

Not necessarily for recovering rail vehicles, but my employer certainly have the means the lifting things!

http://www.volkerrail.co.uk/en/capabilities/detail/kirow-2508101200-rail-mounted-cranes

the good old Kirow crane! It is a massive bit of kit

 

[Ploughman]

As long as its not trying to lift a short panel of track near Paddington on a Christmas possession.

 

[FTS 2012-2013]

Program on BBC 2 yesterday showed crane operators retrieving two derailed concrete wagons near Dartford.

The crane had to come from Liverpool due to the need for the reach from stable ground.

How would they retrieve the wagons if the location was even less accessible ?
Are there still rail mounted cranes for this ?

link to watch this ?

 

[petersi]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/iplayer/episode/b03bmg9n
If in the uk

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