New South Western franchise: Awarded to First/MTR

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I see 19,794 people must have liked South West Trains page on Facebook. It now says South Western Railway but still has the South West Trains logo. Here's a photo.

They still need to update the info section as it's all about South West Trains. I'm sure that will happen in due course.

 

[infobleep]

The guard on my train has just announced one can tweet him directly. Is this just one guard being helpful or a new policy of SWR? Apologies if it's been mentioned before, I can't remember. Given it's a non commercial guard and it's a 455+455+456, where guards don't walk through the train, could this be a useful addition?

The guard seemed cheerful but I'm sure he's like that most days.

The orange high visibility jackets at the station had the new SWR logo on. I didn't see what the high viz yellow jackets had.

 

[Masboroughlad]

Without trawling all of the pages in this thread, have we got any pics of the SWR livery?

 

[Lockwood]

There will a Desiro branded from September 4 I believe

Follow this post back to a photo/mockup

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

This might have already been said (don't have a go at me if it already has) but I got a load of SWR timetables and the Woking - Guildford mini guide says Worplesdoan about ten times!

 

[bb21]

Goody bag, from a contact.

 

[bb21]

Did you find the guy who you spoke to on the last SWT service on this forum? I could have imagined going on that train last night, "Are you bb21?" Probably would have got some puzzled faces.

No, I didn't.

He might not be on the forum.

 

[randompixel]

You can definitely tell the website has been thrown together by cloning other sources and rebranding other parts.

Quite a few broken links, a lot of switching back and forth between http and https and the whole smartcard section is still on the southwesttrains domain (I'd imagine with some hasty deletions of code, not to mention the "Renew" button has never worked). The smartcard stuff is also very difficult to find from the main site.

Hopefully over time they'll pull it all together into something a bit more cohesive.

 

[SpacePhoenix]

Goody bag, from a contact.

Could you please post another pic but just of the long box (what was/is in it?) but angled so that there's no light reflection (might need to possibly turn the flash off)?

 

[greaterwest]

Could you please post another pic but just of the long box (what was/is in it?) but angled so that there's no light reflection (might need to possibly turn the flash off)?

The long box contains jelly beans. The mock-up of the livery is in the large book.

 

[bb21]

Could you please post another pic but just of the long box (what was/is in it?) but angled so that there's no light reflection (might need to possibly turn the flash off)?

I can't unfortunately as it's not mine, but I'll see if I can get hold of one.

As mentioned, they are jelly beans.

 

[sarahj]

I can't unfortunately as it's not mine, but I'll see if I can get hold of one.

As mentioned, they are jelly beans.

I still have my 377 with jelly beans handed out to us when Southern kept the franchise back in 201?. We got a print of a 377 crossing the Ouse valley viaduct when it ended.

 

[Wookiee]

Who owns that building though?

It's leased from South West Trains to Siemens. SWT in turn lease it from a depot finance company who themselves lease it from DB Cargo, who lease it from EWSR.

Clear? Good!

 

[PudseyBearHST]

Could you please post another pic but just of the long box (what was/is in it?) but angled so that there's no light reflection (might need to possibly turn the flash off)?

Hopefully, I'll get to see the goody bag later on today- not sure if there will be any jelly beans left for me by the time it arrives home though

 

[Joe Paxton]

It's leased from South West Trains to Siemens. SWT in turn lease it from a depot finance company who themselves lease it from DB Cargo, who lease it from EWSR.

Clear? Good!

Er, DB Cargo UK is EWSR.

 

[swt_passenger]

It's leased from South West Trains to Siemens. SWT in turn lease it from a depot finance company who themselves lease it from DB Cargo, who lease it from EWSR.

Clear? Good!

You couldn't really make all that up, could you. Presumably one of the many sites EWS were practically given for nothing in 1995?

 

[Wookiee]

Er, DB Cargo UK is EWSR.

My bad, you're quite right. DB Cargo lease from whoever has taken over Railtrack's property then. DafT?

 

[387star]

This depot signage talk reminds me.. When will the old Thames link logos be pulled down from three bridges depot I wonder ?

 

[Wookiee]

You couldn't really make all that up, could you. Presumably one of the many sites EWS were practically given for nothing in 1995?

£0 premium and peppercorn rent.

 

[Monty]

Goody bag, from a contact.

Since everyone has been showing off their welcome packs I just wanted to state for the record that I have already scoffed my jelly beans.

 

[Wolfie]

Since everyone has been showing off their welcome packs I just wanted to state for the record that I have already scoffed my belly beans.

my bold and italic

Freudian?

 

[swt_passenger]

Those bags look as though they'll be pretty useful for the days you have to remember to bring in your PE kit...

 

[Wolfie]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tra...nion-warn-of-industrial-dispute-a3616386.html

"The new operators of one of Britain’s busiest commuter franchises today began its first full day of operations — as union leaders warned of a pending industrial dispute.

South Western Railway, which replaces South West Trains, operates across London and the south of England.

It is a collaboration between UK transport firm FirstGroup and MTR, which runs the Hong Kong metro.

But rail union the RMT today staged a morning peak-time protest at Waterloo, calling on South Western Railway to provide “assurance” they will keep a guard on all their services.

The new operator has pledged to have a second person on board but it is not known exactly what their duties will be.

A FirstGroup spokesman said: “We know that a second member of staff provides assurance to our passengers on trains and ensures we have capable colleagues on board to deliver assistance during the journey for anyone that needs help or advice while travelling on our trains.

“This is why we will always plan to retain two people on our services.”

The Standard understands the RMT’s controlling executive committee will meet to consider declaring a formal dispute with First/MTR in line with its national opposition to driver-only trains, which it claims is unsafe.

Rail industry chiefs insist they are used safely across large parts of the UK.

Andy Mellors, managing director of South Western Railway, said: “I am disappointed that despite our reassurances about retaining two people on our services, the RMT has gone ahead with this protest.”

Commuters face increased disruption at Waterloo from Thursday due to engineering delays caused by last week’s train derailment. Platforms 1-14 will be out of use throughout the Bank Holiday weekend."

 

[3141]

I still have my 377 with jelly beans handed out to us when Southern kept the franchise back in 201?. We got a print of a 377 crossing the Ouse valley viaduct when it ended.

This is becoming more and more amazing.

Do all TOCs hand out jelly beans to staff when they take over? Is "jelly beans" a euphemism for something entirely different that shouldn't be mentioned on a family forum? Do they perhaps contain performance-enhancing substances? In which case, I wonder what happened to Monty who tells us in #2779 that he's already scoffed all of his. I think on the whole I'd prefer not to know any more, and let these "jelly beans" remain a mystery of railway life.

 

[Monty]

my bold and italic

Freudian?

That would be auto correct for you.

This is becoming more and more amazing.

Do all TOCs hand out jelly beans to staff when they take over? Is "jelly beans" a euphemism for something entirely different that shouldn't be mentioned on a family forum? Do they perhaps contain performance-enhancing substances? In which case, I wonder what happened to Monty who tells us in #2779 that he's already scoffed all of his. I think on the whole I'd prefer not to know any more, and let these "jelly beans" remain a mystery of railway life.

Well I'm still alive if that's what you're wondering.

 

[spark001uk]

Goody bag, from a contact.

Is this the same goody bag customers will get on the 4th if they're lucky?

 

[spark001uk]

Spotted first piece of branding!
I agree with others about the R put underneath the SW, it looks a bit naff.

 

[30909]

I expect I am being singularly dim but I find the SWR web site not as useful as SWT Journey Check. I seem unable to find a section that tells me if there are delays to services, short formations, infrastructure or traction problems which was one of the first links you had on the old site. I can only find delay info by selecting a journey and following a selected service. Is there a better way?

 

[Mordac]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tra...nion-warn-of-industrial-dispute-a3616386.html

"The new operators of one of Britain’s busiest commuter franchises today began its first full day of operations — as union leaders warned of a pending industrial dispute.

South Western Railway, which replaces South West Trains, operates across London and the south of England.

It is a collaboration between UK transport firm FirstGroup and MTR, which runs the Hong Kong metro.

But rail union the RMT today staged a morning peak-time protest at Waterloo, calling on South Western Railway to provide “assurance” they will keep a guard on all their services.

The new operator has pledged to have a second person on board but it is not known exactly what their duties will be.

A FirstGroup spokesman said: “We know that a second member of staff provides assurance to our passengers on trains and ensures we have capable colleagues on board to deliver assistance during the journey for anyone that needs help or advice while travelling on our trains.

“This is why we will always plan to retain two people on our services.”

The Standard understands the RMT’s controlling executive committee will meet to consider declaring a formal dispute with First/MTR in line with its national opposition to driver-only trains, which it claims is unsafe.

Rail industry chiefs insist they are used safely across large parts of the UK.

Andy Mellors, managing director of South Western Railway, said: “I am disappointed that despite our reassurances about retaining two people on our services, the RMT has gone ahead with this protest.”

Commuters face increased disruption at Waterloo from Thursday due to engineering delays caused by last week’s train derailment. Platforms 1-14 will be out of use throughout the Bank Holiday weekend."

This has the potential to be really interesting. If SWR does indeed guarantee a second person on the train, as in, it will not operate if the second man is not there, just as currently, but the driver operates the doors... will the RMT still complain? If that's the only change in the role of the guard, then there will no longer be any argument about assisting disabled passengers or having two persons in an emergency.

 

[14sutton]

A journey check is available, just not a link off the website
https://www.journeycheck.com/swr/?

Also 13 stations are having gatelines added, does anyone know which stations these could be?