Next Prime Minister

[YorkshireBear]

So, if I've kept up to date with things, the choices for the Conservatives to make are:

Micheal "We don't need to listen to experts" Gove
Theresa "What Human Rights?" May
Jeremy "Accept this contract" Hunt
Stephen "Homosexuality is a mental illness" Crabbe
Liam Fox

Have I missed anyone? It's quite hard to keep up. Either way, it doesn't look great

You included Jeremy Hunt when he has ruled himself out.

In Gove's defence the current government didn't have a right lot fo time for experts either. Only when it suited them.

Also you missed off Andrea Leadsom.

 

[lejog]

I think Hunt has withdrawn in favour of May.

 

[me123]

Thankfully that useless Hunt is no longer in the race.

 

[Tetchytyke]

Liam Fox

Have I missed anyone?

Adam Werrity?

 

[Domh245]

It seems that May has said that she won't push for us to leave the ECHR, which I suppose puts a least one of my larger concerns to bed. It's a weird weird world when May is the least worst option.

 

[Tetchytyke]

In Gove's defence the current government didn't have a right lot fo time for experts either.

Michael Gove- failed Minister for Education, failed Minister for Justice- is the current Government.

I'm sorry for everything I said about David Cameron. Please come back hamface, please, I'm sorry.

 

[Domh245]

Michael Gove- failed Minister for Education, failed Minister for Justice- is the current Government.

I'm sorry for everything I said about David Cameron. Please come back hamface, please, I'm sorry.

Now would be a good opportunity to put this cartoon in this thread

 

[lejog]

So, if I've kept up to date with things, the choices for the Conservatives to make are:

Micheal "We don't need to listen to experts" Gove
Theresa "What Human Rights?" May
Jeremy "Accept this contract" Hunt
Stephen "Homosexuality is a mental illness" Crabbe
Liam Fox

Have I missed anyone? It's quite hard to keep up. Either way, it doesn't look great

May has already performed a U turn and acknowledged it will be impossible to leave the ECHR. Centrist Tories and the opposition would veto it.

 

[YorkshireBear]

Michael Gove- failed Minister for Education, failed Minister for Justice- is the current Government.

I'm sorry for everything I said about David Cameron. Please come back hamface, please, I'm sorry.

Exactly my point. So the rest of them are the same!

 

[Howardh]

It seems that May has said that she won't push for us to leave the ECHR, which I suppose puts a least one of my larger concerns to bed. It's a weird weird world when May is the least worst option.

Indeed. I've probably voted Tory for the last time ever, and I'm in a marginal.

Now, what does everyone think of Boris? Managed, against his true beliefs to railroad his own ambitions, to get the country to sign it's own suicide note, and then when he could have been in a position to change it from suicide to a bad case of indigestion, throws in the towel and clears off "nothing to do with me, Guv" and leaves someone else the mess.

The whole thing stinks from start to finish. Oh, to turn the clock back seven days.

 

[lejog]

BBC News Channel playing a 2012 clip from Michael Gove.

"There are plenty of other people in the cabinet who could be PM, I'm not one of them. I could not be PM, I'm not equipped to be PM, I don't want to be PM"

 

[Johnuk123]

BBC News Channel playing a 2012 clip from Michael Gove.

"There are plenty of other people in the cabinet who could be PM, I'm not one of them. I could not be PM, I'm not equipped to be PM, I don't want to be PM"

He's standing to ensure May gets in, he knows he won't be elected it's just been done to split the Boris vote and it's worked perfectly.

 

[ainsworth74]

Or he never believed leave would win and doesn't want to be the one to hit the button.

Exactly, he never intended to win and stand now. I think his game plan was to lose the referendum and then when the leadership came around he was planning to stand on the basis of commiserating with the the Eurosceptics and then do the same in a General Election.

So, if I've kept up to date with things, the choices for the Conservatives to make are:

Micheal "We don't need to listen to experts" Gove
Theresa "What Human Rights?" May
Jeremy "Accept this contract" Hunt
Stephen "Homosexuality is a mental illness" Crabbe
Liam Fox

Have I missed anyone? It's quite hard to keep up. Either way, it doesn't look great

I think you mean Liam 'Disgraced former minister' Fox!

 

[61653 HTAFC]

He's standing to ensure May gets in, he knows he won't be elected it's just been done to split the Boris vote and it's worked perfectly.

Though with Boris deciding he'd rather someone else clean up his mess, we might yet end up with Pob as PM... :roll:

 

[Harbornite]

So, if I've kept up to date with things, the choices for the Conservatives to make are:

Micheal "We don't need to listen to experts" Gove
Theresa "What Human Rights?" May
Jeremy "Accept this contract" Hunt
Stephen "Homosexuality is a mental illness" Crabbe
Liam Fox

Have I missed anyone? It's quite hard to keep up. Either way, it doesn't look great

I didn't know who Crabbe was until today, although I've seen footage of him before. I must say that, without sounding stereotypical, that he doesn't look like the kind of person who would have such outdated views on homosexuality. Dare I say I expected him to be older, although it goes without saying that there are plenty of young homophobes throughout the world.

Moving on, the "best of the bunch" would at first seem to be May and Fox. However, having a brexit supporting PM could be better because they would be more passionate about the cause of leaving the EU.

 

[Domh245]

I didn't know who Crabbe was until today, although I've seen footage of him before. I must say that, without sounding stereotypical, that he doesn't look like the kind of person who would have such outdated views on homosexuality. Dare I say I expected him to be older, although it goes without saying that there are plenty of young homophobes throughout the world.

Crabb (my mistake, there is no e on the end) has links to CARE which "has in the past sponsored events calling gay and bisexual people ‘broken’ and promoting the idea of remedies to help them become ‘ex-gay’." He also voted against Same Sex Marriage.

 

[muz379]

You included Jeremy Hunt when he has ruled himself out.

In Gove's defence the current government didn't have a right lot fo time for experts either. Only when it suited them.

Also you missed off Andrea Leadsom.

However Gove in his time in opposition and as a cabinet minister cited the IMF and OECD on multiple occasions .Experts he now declares the British public should ignore and are sick of hearing from .

 

[DarloRich]

So It wont be Boris then!

 

[MonsooN]

I think it'll be May.

What was it that Liam Fox did again? If I remember correctly, didn't he bring his friend along on a load of foreign trips with him at the expense of the taxpayer? There may have been more to it than that, but if that's all he did, I'd probably be prepared to forgive him for that if it meant he did a decent job at being PM.

From what I remember, he was quite highly regarded by his fellow MPs and people from the MOD. He made a mistake with the Adam Werrity thing, but if he's competent enough to do the job, surely he should have a chance?

 

[lejog]

I think it'll be May.

What was it that Liam Fox did again? If I remember correctly, didn't he bring his friend along on a load of foreign trips with him at the expense of the taxpayer? There may have been more to it than that, but if that's all he did, I'd probably be prepared to forgive him for that if it meant he did a decent job at being PM.

From what I remember, he was quite highly regarded by his fellow MPs and people from the MOD. He made a mistake with the Adam Werrity thing, but if he's competent enough to do the job, surely he should have a chance?

Fox is the darling of the Tory far right, but is regarded as an electoral liability by most of the MPs.

 

[Arglwydd Golau]

The feverish speculation on all sides of the political spectrum over the last few days (I'm thinking in particular of those who claim to have 'inside knowledge' with their constant tweets on news feeds) has been shown up for what it is with the events of this morning....no-one predicted that Gove would stand and no-one predicted that Johnson wouldn't. Don't we get too hung up on what these so-called 'informed' people are thinking?

 

[Butts]

All I can say is thank God Labour are in such a mess

Let's get Ken out of "cold storage" or bring Ruth down from Scotland.

Failing that "The Leopard Girl" will have to suffice !!!

Ironic that the so called reactionary Conservative Party could end up providing the UK's second female PM when the progressive Labour Party have never even had a female leader. May at the helm will make it harder for the SNP as well.

 

[Groningen]

Taking no responsibility for the mess Boris Johnson created.

 

[Jonny]

All I can say is thank God Labour are in such a mess

Let's get Ken out of "cold storage" or bring Ruth down from Scotland.

Failing that "The Leopard Girl" will have to suffice !!!

Ironic that the so called reactionary Conservative Party could end up providing the UK's second female PM when the progressive Labour Party have never even had a female leader. May at the helm will make it harder for the SNP as well.

The irony would be that neither had received any (deliberate) preferential treatment compared to their male colleagues, whereas Liebour oops I meant Labour are notorious for so-called "positive" discrimination.

 

[Tetchytyke]

What was it that Liam Fox did again? If I remember correctly, didn't he bring his friend along on a load of foreign trips with him at the expense of the taxpayer? There may have been more to it than that

I think you mean "friend" and I think you mean "gave his friend MOD clearance far beyond what he should have had, including giving him access to top secret meetings with Mossad". Not to mention some of their interesting shareholdings in defence companies and health companies whilst working at Defence.
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Liebour

I think you'll find it is ZaNuLieBore, led by their hated dictator Tony B. Liar, who ruled us under the fascist yoke of the EUSSR.

 

[Class 319]

#gove4pm

 

[DaleCooper]

#gove4pm

What's that supposed to mean?

 

[jon0844]

So It wont be Boris then!

Smart man.

He knows he sold out. He knows he couldn't probably negotiate anything. He also no doubt expected Cameron to have to go ahead and invoke article 50 and be seen as the man who got us out of Europe, get destroyed and have Boris take over.

As Cameron resigned, who wants the unenviable task of negotiating out - especially now everyone knows it was nearly all a pack of lies?

Let some other mug do it, and he'll have another go in the future.

 

[northwichcat]

#gove4pm

On the homepage I saw

"Next Prime Minister
Class 319"

Might as well make one of the redundant 319s PM, opposed to Gove

 

[Harbornite]

What's that supposed to mean?

Gove for Prime Minister. Quite why anyone would want that smarmy little git of a man as our PM is beyond me.