Northern Unit Refurbishments

[northernchris]

333001 has just passed through Leeds sandwiched between a pair of 37s, possibly en route for a refurb

 

[AMD]

333001 has just passed through Leeds sandwiched between a pair of 37s, possibly en route for a refurb

Indeed it is.

And coming the other way is a 170 - http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O36435/2018/09/08/advanced

 

[superkev]

333001 has just passed through Leeds sandwiched between a pair of 37s, possibly en route for a refurb

I think it's just going to Holbeck where I believe the 333 refresh is to be carried out.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K93022/2018/09/
K

 

[wyorks]

Do we have any idea how heavy the 333 refurbished will be. Will be be a deep clean and new seat covers or are they getting a complete refit like the rest of the fleet?

 

[Adam0984]

Same seats new covers and flooring plus the sockets etc

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Same seats new covers and flooring plus the sockets etc

Are they not doing the "metro" interiors (fewer seats, more standing space) in the driving cars yet then?

 

[mikemcniven]

170473 returned today from refurbishment at Crewe CS back to Neville Hill, I captured it at Cheadle Hulme station

Northern 170473 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr


Northern 170473 by Mike McNiven, on Flickr

 

[adrock1976]

@507021 The 156s coming south have been confirmed as 447,449,465,485 & 496.

The ones I have highlighted in bold are fitted with the RETB equipment, which is used on the Glasgow Queen Street - Oban/Fort William/Mallaig route.

 

[northernchris]

Same seats new covers and flooring plus the sockets etc

Should hopefully be back in service fairly soon then. Any idea if a repaint is included?

 

[Adam0984]

Are they not doing the "metro" interiors (fewer seats, more standing space) in the driving cars yet then?

The ‘metro’ layout has been shelved and will remain in the same layout.
And it will roll out in new livery.

 

[pemma]

The ‘metro’ layout has been shelved and will remain in the same layout.
And it will roll out in new livery.

Given what franchise bidders would or wouldn't do to existing rolling stock was part of the scoring process used in awarding the franchises, how are Arriva allowed to change their mind about what they'll do to the 333s? (Unless they proposed to do more than they proposed rather than less.)

 

[Adam0984]

Not sure but the person overseeing the project said it’s not happening

 

[507 001]

The ones I have highlighted in bold are fitted with the ETRS equipment, which is used on the Glasgow Queen Street - Oban/Fort William/Mallaig route.

Do you mean RETB equipment?

 

[AmateurRambler]

A couple of pictures I saw today on Twitter. The first is passing through Leeds, the second in the shed at Holbeck.

 

[adrock1976]

Do you mean RETB equipment?

Yes.

I've fixed my previous post.

 

[Bantamzen]

The ‘metro’ layout has been shelved and will remain in the same layout.
And it will roll out in new livery.

Yay to that if it is indeed the case. I for one was not looking forward to the metro style in the driving cars. Its hard enough to get a seat on them on many peaks without ripping more out.

 

[Brian Aylott]

The ones I have highlighted in bold are fitted with the RETB equipment, which is used on the Glasgow Queen Street - Oban/Fort William/Mallaig route.

Surely all 5 are RETB fitted at present
Brian

 

[JModulo]

Surely all 5 are RETB fitted at present
Brian

All 5 do have RETB.

 

[D6975]

All 5 do have RETB.

But not for much longer, it will be ripped out for installation in 158s before the 156s get sent south.

 

[507021]

All 5 do have RETB.

According to this link, 156496's RETB apparatus has been removed.

 

[JModulo]

According to this link, 156496's RETB apparatus has been removed.

That should say 462 and 467 which have had it removed , 496 still has it. Here it is at Oban today (Not my photo) ;- https://www.flickr.com/photos/46071258@N06/43877552364

 

[northernchris]

150101 is out in unbranded Northern livery, still in FGW interior but PRM'd

 

[Liverpool 507]

158845 returned to Neville Hill this afternoon from repaint and refurbishment at Crewe. Another class 158 is on its way down to Crewe for the same treatment.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Another word on the Northern refurbished 150s: I'm currently on board a 150/1 on the 1317 Nottingham to Leeds. The interior panels do a surprisingly good job of making the unit seem newer than it actually is, and on a fairly quick service like this the unit seems to be performing well mechanically too. A fair bit of thrash from the engines but that's to be expected, and it isn't annoyingly loud. Ride is also surprisingly smooth at higher speeds... BUT:

The flat cloth seat coverings are already filthy, and in places already looking worn and threadbare like the 308s did in their final weeks. Even if they weren't intended to be temporary like the seat covers on the first few 155/158s I suspect they'll have to end up being so. 3+2 airline seats are as cramped as always, though not terrible right now as loading is light; I've a fair bit of luggage; and I'm not a gigantic mutant!

Essentially the seats (and their arrangement) turn what would be a very good refurbishment into a fair-to-middling one at best.

 

[Adam0984]

158845 returned to Neville Hill this afternoon from repaint and refurbishment at Crewe. Another class 158 is on its way down to Crewe for the same treatment.

158849 going to Crewe

 

[jonesy3001]

150101 is out in unbranded Northern livery, still in FGW interior but PRM'd

Don't they normally go to newton heath first then to crewe for the interior refurbishment?

 

[507021]

That should say 462 and 467 which have had it removed , 496 still has it. Here it is at Oban today (Not my photo) ;- https://www.flickr.com/photos/46071258@N06/43877552364

Thanks for that.

 

[woodhouse122]

158849 going to Crewe

The Tour de France 158

 

[superkev]

158845 returned to Neville Hill this afternoon from repaint and refurbishment at Crewe. Another class 158 is on its way down to Crewe for the same treatment.

Wasnt 158 845 to be the first to have the full treatment including the ironing board seats and wasn't etrms mentioned somewhere.
K

 

[Adam0984]

Wasnt 158 845 to be the first to have the full treatment including the ironing board seats and wasn't etrms mentioned somewhere.
K

I believe it has had ERTMS fitted