Northern Unit Refurbishments

[61653 HTAFC]

Don't know if this has already been brought up, but I did notice some slight variations on 753 that aren't on 752/756. Perhaps this is why it was away for so long, there's some dark blue (practically black) panels where there was white, throughout the train. The most noticeable being the walls at each end of the passenger cabin. Slight variation, but makes it look much better and a bit more normal than just full white.

The white in the vestibule area is really helpful, and makes the units seem less claustrophobic. The end walls of the saloon don't really need this, so if that's how the rest will be done that's probably a good thing. Easier to keep clean and probably makes it look a bit less clinical.

 

[DJH1971]

I can confirm that 319448 is in service with Northern.

Was at Liverpool Lime Street this morning on the 10:16 LIV-MIA

 

[mikemcniven]

I can confirm that 319448 is in service with Northern.

Was at Liverpool Lime Street this morning on the 10:16 LIV-MIA

What livery is it in

 

[507021]

What livery is it in

Base white with blue doors.

 

[DJH1971]

Base white with blue doors.

Like 319450, it also has the first class seats

 

[Mugby]

I saw a class 150 unit outside Wabtec in Doncaster today which looked freshly out of the paintshop in the old Northern Rail colours of blue and purple (without names) Is this livery still being applied? Is the new Northern livery just for certain classes?

 

[507021]

I saw a class 150 unit outside Wabtec in Doncaster today which looked freshly out of the paintshop in the old Northern Rail colours of blue and purple (without names) Is this livery still being applied? Is the new Northern livery just for certain classes?

I think the old livery is being re-applied to units which have had just had the PRM modifications, ad the new livery is being applied to units which have had the interior refresh as well as the PRM modifications.

 

[Jamesrob637]

The white in the vestibule area is really helpful, and makes the units seem less claustrophobic. The end walls of the saloon don't really need this, so if that's how the rest will be done that's probably a good thing. Easier to keep clean and probably makes it look a bit less clinical.

I was on 158753 from Garforth to York yesterday, and back since its schedule happened to coincide with mine! Was generally fairly impressed, though obviously it'll be great when the information screen will be fully operational

 

[darloscott]

I think the old livery is being re-applied to units which have had just had the PRM modifications, ad the new livery is being applied to units which have had the interior refresh as well as the PRM modifications.

Unless its 319's seemingly...

 

[mikemcniven]

Unless its 319's seemingly...

or the 156's

 

[Blindtraveler]

Theres been a photo appeared on Facebook today of a 155 heading North through Settle for Kilmarnock. Does this mean the first one is due to work back today? Potentially with the same driver?

 

[trainmananthon]

Theres been a photo appeared on Facebook today of a 155 heading North through Settle for Kilmarnock. Does this mean the first one is due to work back today? Potentially with the same driver?

Yes, that photo is mine. There is one due back later aswell so that must be the other one coming home

Path is here
http://railcam.co.uk/hc/RCTrainInfo.php?r=S&tid=08575D2Q07

 

[deltic08]

I was on 158753 from Garforth to York yesterday, and back since its schedule happened to coincide with mine! Was generally fairly impressed, though obviously it'll be great when the information screen will be fully operational

What a boring moquette if it is moquette? Looks a bit like denim from the photo. I can't remember ever seeing a plain covering before. 'Cheap' springs to mind comparing with 158 quality refurbs by other franchises..

 

[507021]

Unless its 319's seemingly...

In fairness, the 319s aren't in the full livery, they're just in base white with dark blue doors.

The only 319 currently in the full livery is 319456, which is at Loughborough being fitted with diesel engines.

 

[507021]

Updated list.

Units in red are in the Northern Rail livery or their former operator's livery.
Units in blue are in the Northern livery.
Units in purple are in the base Northern livery.
Units in bold are fully refurbished.
Units with a ^ are out of service for refurbishment/PRM mods.
Units with a * have received PRM modifications.
Units with a $ are currently stored/out of service.
319s with an F are having engines fitted for the 319 Flex programme.

Class 150s:
150103, 150110, 150111, 150112, 150113, 150114, 150115, 150116, 150117, 150118, 150119, 150132, 150133, 150134, 150135, 150136*, 150137*, 150138, 150139, 150140*, 150141, 150142, 150143, 150144, 150145, 150146, 150147, 150148, 150149, 150150.

150201, 150203, 150204*, 150205, 150206*, 150207, 150210, 150211*, 150214, 150215, 150218, 150220*, 150222*, 150223*, 150224, 150225, 150226, 150228, 150268, 150269, 150270, 150271, 150272, 150273, 150274, 150275* 150276^, 150277.

Due: 150001, 150002; 150101, 150102, 150104, 150105, 150106, 150107, 150108, 150109, 150120, 150121, 150122, 150123, 150124, 150125, 150126, 150127, 150128, 150129, 150130, 150131.

Class 155s:
155341, 155342, 155343, 155344, 155345^, 155346*$, 155347.

Class 156s:
156420, 156421, 156423, 156424, 156425, 156426, 156427, 156428, 156429, 156438, 156440, 156441, 156443*, 156444*, 156448, 156451*, 156452, 156454*^, 156455, 156459, 156460, 156461, 156463*, 156464, 156466, 156468, 156469, 156471*, 156472*, 156475, 156479*, 156480, 156481, 156482*, 156483*, 156484*, 156486, 156487*, 156488, 156489, 156490, 156491.

Due: 1564??, 1564??, 1564??, 1564??, 1564??.

Class 158s:
2-car: 158784, 158787, 158790, 158791, 158792, 158793, 158794, 158795, 158796, 158797, 158815, 158816, 158817, 158842, 158843, 158844, 158845^, 158848, 158849, 158850, 158851, 158853, 158855, 158859, 158860, 158861, 158872, 158901, 158902, 158903, 158904, 158905, 158906, 158907, 158908, 158909, 158910.

3-car: 158752*, 158753*, 158754^, 158755, 158756*, 158757, 158758, 158759.

Due: 158782, 158786, 158789, 158867, 158868, 158869, 158870, 158871.

Note: 158906 is fitted with WiFi, charging points and a PIS in one carriage.

Class 170:
170453, 170454, 170455, 170456, 170457, 170458, 170459, 170460, 170461, 170472, 170473, 170474, 170475, 170476, 170477, 170478.

Class 319s:
319004^, 319005*^.

319218*$, 319219*$.

319361*, 319362*, 319363*, 319364*, 319365, 319366*, 319367, 319368, 319369*, 319371, 319374, 319375, 319376, 319377, 319378, 319379, 319380, 319382, 319383, 319386.

319424*^, 319431*^, 319434*^, 319442^, 319448*, 319450*, 319456*F, 319458*^.

Class 333s:
333001, 333002, 333003, 333004, 333005, 333006, 333007, 333008, 333009, 333010, 333011, 333012, 333013, 333014, 333015, 333016.

If anybody notices any mistakes or has information on the PRM status of the units expected to arrive please let me know.

 

[Mordac]

Yes, that photo is mine. There is one due back later aswell so that must be the other one coming home

Path is here
http://railcam.co.uk/hc/RCTrainInfo.php?r=S&tid=08575D2Q07

That unit manages to look tired after coming out of refurbishment.

 

[Jamesrob637]

What a boring moquette if it is moquette? Looks a bit like denim from the photo. I can't remember ever seeing a plain covering before. 'Cheap' springs to mind comparing with 158 quality refurbs by other franchises..

Means it won't get trashed so easily by the "last train on a Friday or Saturday" lot?

 

[yorksrob]

I was on 158753 from Garforth to York yesterday, and back since its schedule happened to coincide with mine! Was generally fairly impressed, though obviously it'll be great when the information screen will be fully operational

The interior looks a bit bright to my taste. The 158's used to have a pleasant subdued atmosphere.

 

[ValleyLines142]

Seen one of the refurbished 158s, 150275 and 156471 en route to Blackpool today!

 

[superkev]

Yes, that photo is mine. There is one due back later aswell so that must be the other one coming home

Path is here
http://railcam.co.uk/hc/RCTrainInfo.php?r=S&tid=08575D2Q07

So unless it's the 158 then rust bucket 155 346 returns after a year away. Lets hope my knees will fit in now.
155's surely the worst of all dmu's.
K

 

[507021]

So unless it's the 158 then rust bucket 155 346 returns after a year away. Lets hope my knees will fit in now.
155's surely the worst of all dmu's.
K

I doubt 158754 will be back that quickly, it'll be 155346 coming back today.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

That unit manages to look tired after coming out of refurbishment.

That's the next one up, so far unrefurbished. Given that the first one took a year I'd be surprised if the second had only taken a day!

 

[mikemcniven]

I doubt 158754 will be back that quickly, it'll be 155346 coming back today.

It is 155346 just checked on Railcam that has stills of is passing along the S&C

 

[trainmananthon]

Here you go. An hour and a half early at settle

 

[507021]

Here you go. An hour and a half early at settle

I like it, hopefully the remainder don't take as long.

 

[northwichcat]

Given that the first one took a year I'd be surprised if the second had only taken a day!

It took them a day to realise that refurbishing the second isn't economically viable

 

[Mordac]

That's the next one up, so far unrefurbished. Given that the first one took a year I'd be surprised if the second had only taken a day!

Oops, haha.

Fair enough, the refurbished one actually looks presentable. Now for a look inside to see if you can really polish a turd...

 

[sk688]

Given Northern's franchise runs until 2025 , that should be more than enough time to complete refurbishment of the 155s , as long as they keep up the breakneck pace that 346 was done in , and the refurb will be complete by 2023

 

[61653 HTAFC]

Oops, haha.

Fair enough, the refurbished one actually looks presentable. Now for a look inside to see if you can really polish a turd...

Aye, the interior is far more important. Northern Spirit's 142 refurbishment is the current holder of the "shiniest turd" award... Will this 155 beat it?

 

[ash39]

Out of all the units done so far, the livery looks best on the 155. Would look more modern with the yellow lights like 150275 though.