Northern Unit Refurbishments

[978wta]

Please can you tell me what FB means? All I could think of was face book but didn't think there was a page dedicated to Sprinters there.

Yes Facebook and here’s a link to the page https://www.facebook.com/groups/614419401958668/?fref=nf

 

[mde]

I have started to notice that allot of the fabric on the "refurbished" 150s are starting to become dirty and tatty, the light blue really highlights the extent to which it is a problem also. I had been on a couple of units where I was just about to plonk myself down, however looked at the state of the seat and decided to find somewhere else.
Sam

I think they will probably live to regret buying that fabric - moquette would have been more resilient.

 

[Killingworth]

It's good that the refurbs are going ahead, but can anyone explain why 150/2s are often twinned with 150/1s or Pacers on routes such as Piccadilly-Sheffield where the conductor is then unable to sell and check tickets in half the train? The half of the train that all savvy passengers will get into after Piccadilly, safe in the knowledge there's no barrier at Sheffield to catch them, even when all the stations finally get ticket machines? A pair of 150/2s would surely help to solve that one.

I was at Stockport for a time recently and noticed many 150/1s paired with 150/2s, but didnt see any 150/2s running together.

 

[northernchris]

It's good that the refurbs are going ahead, but can anyone explain why 150/2s are often twinned with 150/1s or Pacers on routes such as Piccadilly-Sheffield where the conductor is then unable to sell and check tickets in half the train? The half of the train that all savvy passengers will get into after Piccadilly, safe in the knowledge there's no barrier at Sheffield to catch them, even when all the stations finally get ticket machines? A pair of 150/2s would surely help to solve that one.

I was at Stockport for a time recently and noticed many 150/1s paired with 150/2s, but didnt see any 150/2s running together.

Northern have 45 150/1 and 28 150/2 so it's more likely a 150/1 will turn up. The 150s are part of a standard pool, so if a diagram is allocated a 150, either a /1 or /2 can turn up, presumably this makes diagramming easier

 

[Killingworth]

Northern have 45 150/1 and 28 150/2 so it's more likely a 150/1 will turn up. The 150s are part of a standard pool, so if a diagram is allocated a 150, either a /1 or /2 can turn up, presumably this makes diagramming easier

Maybe when all have been refurbished the fleet can be better distributed to help maximise income. That must be a thorny issue for Northern. I'd have thought the revenue protection people would be working with those responsible for diagramming to improve fare collection on all routes.

 

[43096]

You'll also note while the second 185 toilet isn't wheelchair accessible, it does have braille on the toilet door sign, on the toilet flush button and on the hand washer controls.

I have never understood why they have Braille on the signs - if you are blind enough to need Braille then how do you know where the sign is in the first place?

 

[ash39]

I have never understood why they have Braille on the signs - if you are blind enough to need Braille then how do you know where the sign is in the first place?

I think it's because very few people are 100% blind (and if they were, they'd probably require full time assistance, especially for travel).

Braille is useful where people are partially sighted. Where they are able to pick out enough light and shape to find a door, but not read the sign saying 'Toilet'.

 

[Bletchleyite]

I think it's because very few people are 100% blind (and if they were, they'd probably require full time assistance, especially for travel).

Braille is useful where people are partially sighted. Where they are able to pick out enough light and shape to find a door, but not read the sign saying 'Toilet'.

Even if I was fully blind I think I'd prefer to be afforded the dignity of being able to use the toilet alone without having to put my hand in some quite disgusting places to feel where the bowl is.

 

[DanNCL]

156480 is carrying a commemorative livery for the RAF, seen at Newcastle earlier

 

[BurtonM]

That blue looks much nicer than Northern's actual blue.

A bit like an updated Regional Railways livery!

 

[Bletchleyite]

Did they run out of paint to finish that window frame?

 

[Mollman]

That blue looks much nicer than Northern's actual blue.

A bit like an updated Regional Railways livery!

I'd use that light blue to replace the white and keep the current dark blue curved ends.

 

[Domh245]

Did they run out of paint to finish that window frame?

Are you referring to the first full width window from the front, because if so you'll note that is where the swirl usually finishes, this RAF patch goes further back along the body.

 

[978wta]

Not paint, they will be pre cut vinyls which are extended beyond the standard dark blue to accommodate the Royal Air Force Logo.

 

[M1544]

Somethings on it’s way back from Kilmarnock to Neville hill now - maybe 158759 or 155341 or both -
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91388/2018/06/23/advanced

 

[mikemcniven]

Somethings on it’s way back from Kilmarnock to Neville hill now - maybe 158759 or 155341 or both -
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91388/2018/06/23/advanced

It's 158759, it's just passed one of the RailCam's in Scotland

 

[superkev]

It's 158759, it's just passed one of the RailCam's in Scotland

That's the last of Northerns 3 car 158s that Brodie has been doing exclusively. I wonder what if anything will be replacing it at brodies.
K

 

[superkev]

I notice a 158 is shown as travelling to Heaton depot. Wasn't the plan to have 158's at Heaton for Newcastle Carlisle connect service.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91105/2018/06/24/advanced
K

 

[PHILIPE]

I notice a 158 is shown as travelling to Heaton depot. Wasn't the plan to have 158's at Heaton for Newcastle Carlisle connect service.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91105/2018/06/24/advanced
K

They will need Driver training first

 

[DanNCL]

They will need Driver training first

Carlisle crew already sign 158s so some Tyne Valley Line turns could in theory be worked by 158s without any further training. Newcastle crew however will need training on the 158s.

 

[stu99]

I notice a 158 is shown as travelling to Heaton depot. Wasn't the plan to have 158's at Heaton for Newcastle Carlisle connect service.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91105/2018/06/24/advanced
K

Might just be for an exam, but I would be pleased to be proven otherwise.

 

[deltic08]

I notice a 158 is shown as travelling to Heaton depot. Wasn't the plan to have 158's at Heaton for Newcastle Carlisle connect service.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91105/2018/06/24/advanced
K

What a roundabout way to go from Neville Hill to York. It must be three times the distance. If it was a 75 mph unit I would understand but a 158 fits in well with TPE services on this stretch of line.

 

[73001]

What a roundabout way to go from Neville Hill to York. It must be three times the distance. If it was a 75 mph unit I would understand but a 158 fits in well with TPE services on this stretch of line.

It might be any easy way to keep up route knowledge for drivers as you could send it anyway you like as long as it got there.

 

[deltic08]

It might be any easy way to keep up route knowledge for drivers as you could send it anyway you like as long as it got there.

Good point. I didn't think of that.

 

[jonesy3001]

150116 has been northernised, theres pictures on flickr and on the facebook sprinter group and 150112 is at crewe to be northernised.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

150116 has been northernised, theres pictures on flickr and on the facebook sprinter group and 150112 is at crewe to be northernised.

Fitted with flat cap and whippet accommodation?

 

[tommy_train]

It actually doesn't surprise me that they would have to treat corrosion given the age of the units, nor should it surprise them and they should have allowed time and budget to complete this , it isn't an either/or situation and certainly doesn't excuse wilfully misleading customers about the quality of the refurb they'd get. Cheapo seat covers on ancient seats doesn't scream as new ambiance to me.

I really don't like this cheap seat cover material. I first saw photos of it and it looked nice, but then I was on a 150 and sat on it, and it's not proper moquette and it cheapened the whole thing.

Ivr recently been on a 319 with this material and it makes the refurb feel half arsed, at least as far as the customer facing aspect goes.

 

[Rail Blues]

Fitted with flat cap and whippet accommodation?

I'm offended at this outrageous stereotyping of the North of England, it is pandering to lazy stereotypes about Northern folk.

If you has must know, it been converted to run on gravy and mushy peas and a PiS voiced by Geoff Boycott has been fitted.

 

[61653 HTAFC]

I'm offended at this outrageous stereotyping of the North of England, it is pandering to lazy stereotypes about Northern folk.

If you has must know, it been converted to run on gravy and mushy peas and a PiS voiced by Geoff Boycott has been fitted.

As it should be... That's champion.

 

[superkev]

I notice a 158 is shown as travelling to Heaton depot. Wasn't the plan to have 158's at Heaton for Newcastle Carlisle connect service.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/K91105/2018/06/24/advanced
K

Anyone know which unit moved and for why?
K