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Parties Rail Policies Election 2015

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Investment in rail (and roads) should theoretically do better under a Labour government as Labour have said they are prepared to borrow to fund Capital expenditure (i.e. infrastructure improvements). Plus the fact that Labour cutting back on rail improvements in areas which would count as its heartlands (the North, South Wales and the Midlands) would do significant damage to the party.
 
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I am not sure. Does DOR exist when no TOCS need 'rescuing'? Surely they don't sit around waiting for one to fail?!

They do but only in as much as there is a management team ready to set up a team to move in and take over a TOC at short notice. They have a website here.
 

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It's all very well when "head office" deliver their manifesto to the media. In reality, the local parties will make or break some of the policies.

In Oxford, for example...

The North Oxford Liberal Democrats (in fear of loss of votes) have been very much siding with local multi-millionaires in their campaign against the re-opening of the E-W link and electrification through Oxford.

The Greens are paranoid about how electrification will affect the view from Port Meadow and their candidate for Wantage is leading the campaign against a flood relief channel that will help prevent line closures due to flooding between Oxford & Abingdon

Labour successfully threatened to take action that would stop electrification through Oxford unless they got their own way regarding a ramped bridge.

The Conservatives - they tend to stay clear of the city.
 
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From BBC News the main Transport policies are

SNP:
  • Continue improving the roads network, including the dualling of the A90, and a new Forth crossing
  • Wants faster journey times between Scotland's cities
  • Encourage low carbon transport and expand "park and rides"
  • Faster and more frequent rail services

Their manifesto confirms they also want "a high speed connection between Glasgow, Edinburgh and the north of England as part of any high speed rail network"
 
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The first worry on May 8 is whether the new lot will continue to run with the Northern/TPE franchise bids.
These are due back with the DfT by May 28 (TPE) and June 26 (Northern).
Any tinkering with the process affecting these bids would take us back to the log-jam of 2012 after the West Coast trouble, and severely upset the bidders.
You can also imagine the public uproar in the north if Pacer replacement was not immediately confirmed by the new government.
The next upcoming bid is for East Anglia starting in August (pre-qualification in progress, short list due in June).

Cant see why these would be affected, whoever gets in is gonna have alot more to deal with than look at changing these, besides the new government wont start on May 8th, as predicted there will be a hung parliament so that will take a couple of weeks to sort out and don't they come back later as well so that will be the end of May, then with everything else going on they wont be able to react to the one at the end of June
 

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Investment in rail (and roads) should theoretically do better under a Labour government as Labour have said they are prepared to borrow to fund Capital expenditure (i.e. infrastructure improvements). Plus the fact that Labour cutting back on rail improvements in areas which would count as its heartlands (the North, South Wales and the Midlands) would do significant damage to the party.

Theoretically, of course, anything at all is possible. In practice, many things change and the prospects of some form of coalition, again, may well result in the 'minority' partner having a significant say in decisions.
 

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Conservative manifesto published today

Northern powerhouse
We will electrify the main rail routes, build the Northern
Hub, and provide new trains for the North� We will upgrade
the A1, M62, M1 and A555 link road� And that is on top of
our £50 billion commitment to build High Speed 2 – the
new North-South railway linking up London with the West
Midlands, Leeds and Manchester – and develop High Speed
3 to join up the North

We will improve rail connections to East Anglia,
delivering ‘Norwich in 90 minutes’ and ‘Ipswich in 60
minutes’ and upgrade key roads like the A11 and A47.

We will invest £38 billion in our railway network in the five
years to 2019. Electrification of the railways is a key part of
our investment programme, with work already underway
across the North, the Midlands, and South Wales; there
are plans to go further in the rest of the country, including
East Anglia and the South West� In addition to rolling out
our national high-speed rail network, with High Speed 2
and High Speed 3, we will complete the construction of the
new east-west Crossrail across Greater London, and push
forward with plans for Crossrail 2, a new rail route running
through London and connecting Surrey and Hertfordshire�
We will support a fairer deal for taxpayers and commuters:
we will keep commuter rail fares frozen in real terms for the
whole of the next Parliament – regulated fares will only be able to rise by RPI.
 
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Just trotting out (copied?) the present 5 year plan. Whatever was the point of such detail?

A manifesto should be a statement of policies, not a list of schemes. The others were depressingly poor too.
 

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Just trotting out (copied?) the present 5 year plan. Whatever was the point of such detail?

A manifesto should be a statement of policies, not a list of schemes. The others were depressingly poor too.
To be fair that's enough to be getting on with!
 

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Just trotting out (copied?) the present 5 year plan. Whatever was the point of such detail?

A manifesto should be a statement of policies, not a list of schemes. The others were depressingly poor too.

But, nowadays, everything has to be spelt out or the media will suggest it's only 'waffle' with no real substance. Personally, I prefer the detailed statement of intent rather than a bland 'broad brush' that means little to me. It also ties the party down to specific issues.
 
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Just trotting out (copied?) the present 5 year plan. Whatever was the point of such detail?

A manifesto should be a statement of policies, not a list of schemes. The others were depressingly poor too.

Wouldn't take too much from any parties manifesto as its likely there will be a hung parliament and another coalition
 

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Wouldn't take too much from any parties manifesto as its likely there will be a hung parliament and another coalition

It's also likely in a Coalition that the policies which would make people choose one party over another would be blocked.

The well off would be attracted to the Tory's proposal to change the 40p tax rate threshold, change the inheritance tax threshold and to cut back welfare. However, those are the very things another party like the Lib Dems would want them to scrap/postpone before agreeing to a Coalition.
 

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There are no real differences between the 3 main parties anyway, it's not as if Labour have put in a commitment to say nationalise the rail operators, or radically change road policy.
Transport is now a minor issue politically, especially as Scotland looks after its own affairs and TfL are responsible for so much that goes on in London. Letting Network Rail decide priorities makes life easier for politicians, as does pushing decisions on runways to a separate commission!
 

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Lib Dem transport policy in full:

Liberal Democrats are leading the renewal of Britain’s ageing
infrastructure but we still have decades of under-investment to catch
up on. We need better transport infrastructure, a modern railway
system, and less congestion on our roads.

We have established our second fiscal rule precisely so we can
invest in productive infrastructure to help the economy grow.

We will:
- Set out 10-year rolling capital investment plans.
- Develop a comprehensive plan to electrify the overwhelming
majority of the UK rail network, reopen smaller stations, restore
twin-track lines to major routes and proceed with HS2, as the first
stage of a high-speed rail network to Scotland.
- Invest in major transport improvements and infrastructure. We will:
❖ Deliver the Transport for the North strategy to promote
growth, innovation and prosperity across northern England.
❖ Develop more modern, resilient links to and within the
South West peninsula to help develop and diversify the
regional economy
❖ Complete East-West rail, connecting up Oxford
and Cambridge and catalysing major new housing
development.
❖ Ensure London’s transport infrastructure is improved
to withstand the pressure of population and economic
growth.
- Work to encourage further private sector investment in rail freight
terminals and rail-connected distribution parks. We will set a
clear objective to shift more freight from road to rail and change
planning law to ensure new developments provide good freight
access to retail, manufacturing and warehouse facilities.
- Ensure our airport infrastructure meets the needs of a modern
and open economy, without allowing emissions from aviation
to undermine our goal of a zero-carbon Britain by 2050. We will
carefully consider the conclusions of the Davies Review into
runway capacity and develop a strategic airports policy for the
whole of the UK in the light of those recommendations and advice
from the Committee on Climate Change. We remain opposed to
any expansion of Heathrow, Stansted or Gatwick and any new
airport in the Thames Estuary, because of local issues of air and
noise pollution. We will ensure no net increase in runways across
the UK.
- Ensure new rail franchises include a stronger focus on customers,
including requirements to integrate more effectively with other
modes of transport and a programme of investment in new
stations, lines and station facilities. We will continue the Access
for All programme, improving disabled access to public transport.

Modern light rail systems, like Croydon Tramlink and Manchester
Metrolink, have brought significant benefits to passengers. We
will encourage Local Authorities to consider trams alongside other
options, and support a new generation of light rail and ultra-light rail
schemes in towns and cities where local people want them.
...
- Ensure rail fares rise no faster than inflation over the Parliament as
a whole.
...

A Green Transport Act which will include:
A statutory target of 2030 by which time all major, regularly used rail routes will need to be electrified.
- A requirement that every new bus and taxi is Ultra Low Emission from 2030 and every car on the road meets that standard by 2040.
- The creation of Low Emission Zones as part of a national air quality plan, including a legal requirement for the most polluted towns and cities.
- A new statutory framework that all new rail franchises include a stronger focus on customers.
- Updates to roads regulation to promote innovation in transport like driverless cars and personal electric vehicles.
...
- Devolving funding of Network Rail in relation to the Wales
network.
 

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- Ensure our airport infrastructure meets the needs of a modern
and open economy, without allowing emissions from aviation
to undermine our goal of a zero-carbon Britain by 2050. We will
carefully consider the conclusions of the Davies Review into
runway capacity and develop a strategic airports policy for the
whole of the UK in the light of those recommendations and advice
from the Committee on Climate Change. We remain opposed to
any expansion of Heathrow, Stansted or Gatwick and any new
airport in the Thames Estuary, because of local issues of air and
noise pollution. We will ensure no net increase in runways across
the UK.

A perfect example of Poly-waffle if ever I saw it. It says exactly what you want it to say if you're in favour of more airport investment, and not in favour of any more air travel. Completely contradictory too.
 

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I didn't take long to read UKIP's rail policy - it's to axe HS2 as a vanity project.
Nothing else is mentioned on rail. No mention of spend on classic rail instead.
Their airports policy is to reopen Manston airport in east Kent, which just happens to be where Nigel Farage is standing for election.

It's on p36 of this: http://www.ukip.org/manifesto2015
 

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I didn't take long to read UKIP's rail policy - it's to axe HS2 as a vanity project.
Nothing else is mentioned on rail. No mention of spend on classic rail instead.
Their airports policy is to reopen Manston airport in east Kent, which just happens to be where Nigel Farage is standing for election.

It's on p36 of this: http://www.ukip.org/manifesto2015

To me all of UKIP's polices seem to be something that's been spontaneously thought of which at least some people will like, with no idea of exactly how it will be implemented. At least the Greens plan to invest in improving existing rail lines and cutting fares instead of HS2.
 

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I didn't take long to read UKIP's rail policy - it's to axe HS2 as a vanity project.
Nothing else is mentioned on rail. No mention of spend on classic rail instead.
Their airports policy is to reopen Manston airport in east Kent, which just happens to be where Nigel Farage is standing for election.

It's on p36 of this: http://www.ukip.org/manifesto2015

While the airport was previously completely unviable, I can see there being high demand for outbound flights (at least) in the event of Mr Farage's election to the seat :lol:
 

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Green Party leader says she believes a privatised rail industry was 'an experiment' and attacking Labour for not being left enough in its rail policy.
 

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Do the Greens still support a policy of railway reopenings in England? If so, it's a vote winner with me.
 

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Do the Greens still support a policy of railway reopenings in England? If so, it's a vote winner with me.

Rail on page 64: https://www.greenparty.org.uk/assets/files/manifesto/Green_Party_2015_General_Election_Manifesto.pdf (Pdf is locked so you can't copy and paste.)

The things that stand out is they want local authorities running local services, bringing the proportion of electrified track to at least be similar lines in Germany (59% track electrified), fare cuts, scrapping HS2, removing congestion on the railways and re-opening lines and stations.
 

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Rail on page 64: https://www.greenparty.org.uk/assets/files/manifesto/Green_Party_2015_General_Election_Manifesto.pdf (Pdf is locked so you can't copy and paste.)

The things that stand out is they want local authorities running local services, bringing the proportion of electrified track to at least be similar lines in Germany (59% track electrified), fare cuts, scrapping HS2, removing congestion on the railways and re-opening lines and stations.

Many thanks. I shall have a peruse.
 

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Do the Greens still support a policy of railway reopenings in England? If so, it's a vote winner with me.

But then all parties will say they support railway reopenings, if they are viable etc etc

After all, it's the current coalition that has agreed to reopen East West rail
 

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But then all parties will say they support railway reopenings, if they are viable etc etc

After all, it's the current coalition that has agreed to reopen East West rail

Indeed. It's the definition of viability that's in the small print. I suspect that the Greens' definition of viability might vary from the other parties somewhat (although credit to the Coalition for backing the East-West reopening).
 

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But then all parties will say they support railway reopenings, if they are viable etc etc

After all, it's the current coalition that has agreed to reopen East West rail

I get the impression the Greens and Lib Dems are proposing to go further than the Conservatives and Labour, both talk about re-openings without focusing on a limited number of individual schemes. The Lib Dems are also proposing eliminating single track sections on the main routes, while the Greens are talking about capacity enhancements (which might end up being the same thing.) However, the Conservatives and Labour are the two parties who have to propose policies they can implement in full.
 

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I get the impression the Greens and Lib Dems are proposing to go further than the Conservatives and Labour, both talk about re-openings without focusing on a limited number of individual schemes. The Lib Dems are also proposing eliminating single track sections on the main routes, while the Greens are talking about capacity enhancements (which might end up being the same thing.) However, the Conservatives and Labour are the two parties who have to propose policies they can implement in full.

Well the Greens are anti HS2, so if you don't spend that money, you can afford many smaller upgrades
 

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Do the Greens still support a policy of railway reopenings in England? If so, it's a vote winner with me.

Personally I think HS2 and the East West Rail link is enough to be going on with, particularly as I think the Waverley route and East West Rail link are covering two of the biggest gaps in the Rail Network, and the large amount of investment required for the existing network.

As for HS2 it remains to be seen I certainly don't believe it will be built under Labour.
 
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