Person hit by train near Rutherglen

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  1. Bittern

    Bittern Established Member

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    Not too sure what happened exactly, but information display screens at stations on the Argyle Line say that there are no services due to someone being hit by a train. According to a rail worker at Hamilton West, the police have closed the Argyle line.

    I tried to get a train at Hamilton West earlier to Glasgow Central (then to East Kilbride), but had to settle for a FirstBus 201 instead!

    Does anyone know anything else?
     
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  3. CarterUSM

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    Yes, someone was struck by the transpennine express service from manchester airport in the newton junctions area.
     
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    Heard about this over the PA in Queen Street.

    "Due to a person being hit by a train, all services between Rutherglen and Motherwell are at a stand!"
     
  5. Bittern

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    They're back on today. Nothing about it in the news however. :>/
     
  6. jopsuk

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    News media have a general policy to limit reporting of suicides, as there is a worry (I thnk, though I may be wrong, with some actual evidence) that reporting of suicides can lead to increases in suicides, especially if the method is mentioned in much detail. For instance, headline reporting of a person throwing themselves in front of a train may lead to short spate of similar incidents.

    if the person isn't a public figure, then there's also the family to consider.
     
  7. Ben

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    I've raised this issue with Mojo but I feel the need to make this comment public, any problems with what im saying... Read my Signature!

    I can honestly say I find it rude and disrespectful that every single suicide on the UK rail network is reported and discussed and speculated about on RailUK - Anyone who speculates is a disgrace, remember every suicide is a loss of life that the Train Crew has to come to terms with...
     
  8. Geezertronic

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    I think as this is a public forum, anyone can say anything they like as long as forum rules are not broken.
     
  9. GB

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    Suicides are a normal fact of life within the rail industry...as this is a rail forum I dont see why it shouldnt be commented on providing things stay respectful and clean. Looking at the other comments within this thread I really cant see what the fuss is about.
     
  10. royaloak

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    Of course if you don't like what is written on here don't read it!

    After reading your signature it just makes you sound so full of your own self importance that you appear ignorant.
    I think you need to take the same view with other peoples posts, unless of course you think your opinion is more important than anyone else's.
     
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    I find it funny that in his signature he says that people who criticise are often insecure, yet he is the one criticising
     
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    Get your head out of your own arse.
     
  13. Death

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    [​IMG]...And that's all I'm going to say with regard to the argument. ;)8)

    Back on topic: My thoughts and best wishes are with the driver involved in this mess, and anyone who was up-cab with him/her at the time...
     
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    I don't see why it shouldn't be discussed on here, after all it involves the railways and causes huge amounts of delays and loss of revenue. IN the end the person who commits suicide is being very selfish - for their families, the train driver, the people who have to deal with the aftermath and the people stuck on the trains and platforms.
     
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    Ben, I'm highly opinionated too, but the opinions of others moderate and modify my own views and I am better for it. Of course that may be because I'm not stupid nor arrogant enough to spend half an hour composing a closing banner seeking unsuccessfully to prevent others from challenging my view.
    All you have done is come across as a dogmatic inflexible and rather peculiar oddball whose solution to a troubling topic is to airbrush it out of sight. I think you'll find that one of the best ways of dealing with the trauma of a suicide and its aftermath is to discuss it and not bottle it up. Whoops there I go again......
     
  16. CarterUSM

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    It's a good point, though not all fatalities are suicides, very many are basic trespassers.
     
  17. Polls

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    I think it is always very sad when someone goes to that extreme to end thier life, but my heart also goes out to the driver.

    I heard a statistic that 1 out of 3 drivers experince a fatality at least once in thier careers. Is this true?
     
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    Sounds about right, might even be higher.
    I wonder how many of those drivers have their career ended by the incident?
     
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    I dread to think. Its a shame that it seems to be seen as 'part of the job'. We need those barrier thingys that most of the jubilee line has to stop suicides of this type and also the even sadder cases of people who are drunk or simply slip. I dread to think how much that would cost to do though.
     
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    No, you can't protect people from real life, wrapping them in cotton wool like that. The way to go is reasonable safety standards to prevent accidents (and those on the railway are extremely good - compare it to the roads, for instance) and an acceptance that there will always be those who are so driven by despair that they choose to end it all.

    If we wish to do something about suicides, it would probably be better to invest more in professional help for people desperate enough to want to take their own lives.
     
  21. GB

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    Putting barriers on the edge of platforms would do nothing to stop suicides on the railway. People will simply go to the nearest, bridge, level crossing or foot crossing etc etc and do it there.

    The same with tresspassers, if someone wants to do it they will find away.
     
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    Who said it was a suicide? All incidents are fully investigated and until that investigation is carried out you can't say it is a suicide! I am a bit fed up with some of the comments you people make when to be honest most of you haven't got a clue what you are talking about, ok, this is a forum for anyone to use and subjects should be discussed, but it would be more benficial for you to think before you type and read what you have typed or to the railway workers on this forum it will only make you look like tw*ts. This isn't directed at the person who has quoted above by the way, the people I am talking about know who you are and so does everyone else.
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    The only thing those barrier thingys you are talking about will so is prevent accidents, if someone wants to kill themselves by jumping under a train they can do that anywhere. However has this incident yet been confirmed as a suicide? This surely cannot be confirmed until the inquest.
     
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    With specific regard to railway suicides; One of the sad facts of such events is that they're normally done "on the spot"...Few "jumpers" go to the extent of pre-planning their thoughtless act. AFAIK they simply get pig sick of life there and then, decide to end it all, and often they choose the railway as the means to an end to get the job done...Often with the most horrendous and long-lasting consequences for those unfortunate enough to witness said act! :roll::sad:<(

    Now I'm going to be a little frank about my own view on the matter - And I sincerely apologise in advance to anyone who takes exception or distaste to this viewpoint - But if suicides were often planned or otherwise forseeable, then my personal wish would be for those "jumpers" to assemble in a predetermined place (Preferably on a remote "spare" branch where normal running wouldn't be distrupted) awaiting a specially booked train driven by myself for this purpose. :shock:

    Although I like the idea of railway suicides about as much as anyone else on the forum (That is to say; Not at all) I would sooner a "jumper" threw themselves underneath a train that I was driving as opposed to one driven by someone else. And if a specially booked "jumpers" train could run a service on an unseen and little used branch line, it would at least constrain the sheer horror of such things to the driving/clean-up crews operating that line! <D

    Sadly though, life can never be laid out in such an organised, logical and keep the grisly stuff only for those who don't mind dealing with it fashion... :sad:
     
  24. Polls

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    You are right, you can't stop someone if they have made the decision that they want to commit suicide infront of a train...I advocate the comment that people cannot be wrapped in cotton wool...my niaivity knows no bounds sometimes but I just hate seeing those clips on the news of people falling on the tracks by accident, but yeah thats why there is a big yellow line that we are asked to stand behind. :oops:
     
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