Nosey?And as a customer you were told! The reason was a broken down train ahead. Just because you're too nosey doesn't make the answer you were given wrong...
Nosey?And as a customer you were told! The reason was a broken down train ahead. Just because you're too nosey doesn't make the answer you were given wrong...
The stricken East Mids 158 is still sitting there 4 hours later (minus pax) !!
Maybe they should have announced that there was a spatial conflict between the flux capacitor and the maximal interocitor and that replacements are being rushed across from the University of Leicester on a train hauled by a class A3 (possible thanks to the flux capacitor of course) via Melton Mowbray, Oakham and Stamford and the driver's name is Jones the Steam. Would that be the information that nlt is entitled to because they paid for their travel?And as a customer you were told! The reason was a broken down train ahead. Just because you're too nosey doesn't make the answer you were given wrong...
158864 (on 1R74) was caped at Peterborough and ran as 1Z99 to de-train 1R70 before returning to Peterborough to transfer pax to 1R78 - hopefully as a 4-car.As of 1415 today (18th June) the 158 is STILL sat there, as 5R70....
-edit- It's just started heading North!!!
If there is anybody from LNER management reading this I would say the flow of information to the passengers on my train is not very good. We have been told there is a broken down train but not why it is broken and what is actually being done to fix it.
It was an issue with the pantograph, But how does that help you? Do you possess PTS to walk up to the failed train and apply your traction knowledge of class 91's to fix a Brecknell Willis high speed panto? Do you reckon it's the pan head that's chipped and air is venting? Or do you reckon the compressor has packed in and can't supply enough air to keep it up?
My point is - If you throw this much information at people in an already tense situation they are likely to blow up in a rage. People like straight to the point information and more importantly when they will be moving. That's why a train manager will not stand there and feed you 10 minutes of worthless information.
If it got all the way to Kings Cross the hauling diesel would be trapped against the buffers. As far as I know the push-pull system doesn't work with diesels so they would then have to find another loco to drag it out again, and the platform might not even be long enough for a normal set plus two extra locos.The train in front of you has a fault and needs to go to Bounds Green, it will be sent round the Hertford Loop and out of your way. If it had just been allowed to continue, it would further delay you and others behind you. It would also then cause further issues in the Kings Cross area, further delaying even more services.
The stricken East Mids 158 is still sitting there 4 hours later (minus pax) !!
Do East Midlands Nottingham bound services normally use down slow ?It had a total loss of power and when the rescue unit coupled to it the fault transferred electrically and killed that as well. The crew moved the passengers to the rescue unit and managed to uncouple so it returned them to Peterborough. Fitters then eventually managed to resurrect 813 at which point it trundled off to Nottingham in disgrace.
It's lucky it went on the fast line rather than the slow line as if it had burst on the down slow/down Stamford it would have stopped the Peterborough to Leicester line entirely rather than being worked around (some very long freight trains using that route which would have been a pain to recess!).
Well said. All the 'normals' on a delayed train want to know is how long they might have to wait (often impossible to say) and if alternatives may be necessary if matters don't get resolved quickly. Good, frequent, communication is essential even if it can't actually say very much.
I think it's more that the OP is just stuck in a rant because he was delayed. Presumably, as he has enrolled on RUK, he is an enthusiast and feels that he should be privy to the minutiae of the incident. As far as the railway is concerned, he is just one of many passengers that they have to deliver to their destiantions asap and don't want to get into a discussion about what happened, how they should deal with it and trigger yet more request for updates.I agree - however I wonder if the OP has a misunderstanding about how trains report faults. It isnt high tech!
Generally, most members here understand these issues and merely observe things to satify their curiosity, but there are a few who think that their being 'enthusiasts' entitles them to more information, maybe so they can impress the other normals at the scene with their privileged knowledge.
Excuse my ignorance, what does "caped" mean?158864 (on 1R74) was caped at Peterborough and ran as 1Z99 to de-train 1R70 before returning to Peterborough to transfer pax to 1R78 - hopefully as a 4-car.
Excuse my ignorance, what does "caped" mean?
They seem to relish being caught up in the drama of it all. I have witnessed this first hand on many occasions & normally cringe at what rubbish they spout out.Generally, most members here understand these issues and merely observe things to satify their curiosity, but there are a few who think that their being 'enthusiasts' entitles them to more information, maybe so they can impress the other normals at the scene with their privileged knowledge.
Think the worst of other forum members, eh?i do think there is a bit of that!
Think the worst of other forum members, eh?
GC aren't technically a TOC, hence having a different compensation policy.
With respect to the cancelled 1448 yesterday, LNER would not give ticket acceptance, ironic to say the least given that their unit caused the delays....
Do East Midlands Nottingham bound services normally use down slow ?
I thought it interesting that LNER had ticket acceptance in place with Hull Trains and others, but not Grand Central. Have they fallen out??