Ah ok missed that, somehow, thanks.
Should be 769448 and 769450.
Ah ok missed that, somehow, thanks.
Should be 769448 and 769450.
769424 and 769431.
there is no reason to suppose that anything is seriously wrong.
The protracted delay is reason enough to suppose there may be something seriously wrong. In fact it is the most plausible explanation.
How is 769002 failing it's FTR (fitness to run) test anything to do with TfW?It’s not the most plausible - the most plausible would be that the receiving TOC has so badly mismanaged it’s training programme that it isn’t ready for more units yet; this would be further evidenced by the attempted delivery of a 769 to TfW today; on (revised) schedule.
How is 769002 failing it's FTR (fitness to run) test anything to do with TfW?
Do 319s still work Euston commuter routes? I was on a 390 passing Tring at 5:30-5:40pm and I saw two, one in each direction. Also saw one at Ilford the next day.
You strongly implied that the reason that a 769 wasn't delievered to Canton today was because TfW wasn't ready for it, when in fact the very opposite is true.I didn’t say it was.
But we are not waiting for the start of training or service, the apparently complete units are not yet testing on the main line. Perhaps some mundane explanation applies, who knows. Lets hope the testing in the latter part of March turns out to be correct and devoid of major faults.
You strongly implied that the reason that a 769 wasn't delievered to Canton today was because TfW wasn't ready for it, when in fact the very opposite is true.
Oops - I had these two allocated to Allerton!
Because there couldn't possibly be any other explanation, could there? That Northern are busy training, testing on the 195s that they need to introduce urgently to replace the 185s they'll lose in May, for example.The protracted delay is reason enough to suppose there may be something seriously wrong. In fact it is the most plausible explanation.
The 769s are intended to operate Wigan - Manchester via Bolton, which is a similar type of route. Alternate services are all stations and non-stop under the wires between Bolton and Salford Crescent. The difference is that they will be running as single 4-car units, not in 8-car formations in the peaks.
How often did Thameslink services leave passengers on the platform because they were physically unable to board?
I would welcome input from those "in the know" how this will work.
Exactly I think TFW are actually pretty desperate now to start getting the 769s and testing them and training staff. 769002 can't arrive soon enough although there was a path a few days ago for delivery to canton which was also cancelled so i wonder why 769002 has failed it's for.You strongly implied that the reason that a 769 wasn't delievered to Canton today was because TfW wasn't ready for it, when in fact the very opposite is true.
They’ll remain on Diesel through Guildford.
would make sense to electrify the half mile or so from northcamp to aldershot south junctionThey’ll remain on Diesel through Guildford.
That's priceless! I note you are based in St Albans...... These trains spent much of their life so far with passenger loads well into that range so I doubt that running occasionally in the Northern backwaters of diesel infill lines with such loads are seen as a problem...
St Albans is the spiritual home of highly loaded 319s and being unable to board...That's priceless! I note you are based in St Albans...
That's priceless! I note you are based in St Albans...
Testing would surely have to replicate weighting wouldnt it? (By effectively ballasting the train on runs?)
Brilliant phrasing Deserves its own thread as a topic I think - "what is your local station the spiritual home of?". Anyway, I digress, just wanted to show my appreciation.St Albans is the spiritual home of highly loaded 319s and being unable to board...
I've seen some tests done with metal weights placed on the seats as well, presumably to better represent seated passengers.Usually sealed plastic sacks of sand on the floor.
Indeed a better test overall but cast iron weights cost a bit more! When tweaking suspension settings for heavier loads later in life it tends to be sand bags.I've seen some tests done with metal weights placed on the seats as well, presumably to better represent seated passengers.
I've struggled to get on 319s occasional in the past but St Albans was always the worst and in different league.Brilliant phrasing Deserves its own thread as a topic I think - "what is your local station the spiritual home of?". Anyway, I digress, just wanted to show my appreciation.
Yeah, those tests were being done by a manufacturer, so can see how they would get a better return from upgrading to the heavy metal version.Indeed a better test overall but cast iron weights cost a bit more! When tweaking suspension settings for heavier loads later in life it tends to be sand bags.