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Restoring Your Railway Fund: what ideas would you suggest?

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Jorge Da Silva said:
Ideas Fund: Bids for March submitted and due to be announced in May: Second bidding in June and third in November 2020
  1. Leicester-Burton
  2. Stockport to Stalybridge
  3. Stocksbridge-Sheffield
  4. Sheffield to Chesterfield via Barrow Hill
  5. Doncaster to Knottingley
  6. Doncaster to Shireoaks
  7. Stafford to Wellington
  8. Buxton to Matlock
  9. Gobowen to Oswestry
  10. Rhyl to Corwen
  11. Tavistock to Bere Alston
  12. Tavistock to Okehampton
  13. Brent to Kingsbridge
  14. Heathfield to Newton Abbot
  15. Stratford to Honeybourne
  16. Lostwithiel to Fowey
  17. Part of Northampton to Bedford
  18. Uckfield to Lewes
  19. Bourne End to High Wycombe
  20. Sandall and Agbrigg to Barnsley
  21. York to Beverley
  22. Penrith to Keswick
  23. Silloth to Carlisle
  24. Afon-wen to Bangor
  25. Totton to Fawley
  26. Newport to Smallbrook Junction
  27. Shanklin to Ventor
  28. Burscough Curves
  29. Grazebrook to Baguely
  30. Shirebrook to Ollerton
  31. Poulton-le-Fylde to Fleetwood (not included in the 60)
  32. Harrogate to Northallerton via Ripon
  33. Station: Cullompton
  34. Station: Wellington
  35. Station: Methley
  36. Station: Little Deeping
  37. Station: Donnington Road
  38. Station: Standish
  39. Station: Cullompton
  40. Wortley Curve
  41. Devizes Parkway
Potential Bids for Ideas Fund?

  • Gainsborough Central to Cleethorpes (Potentially, but guess work)
  • Northampton to Market Harborough
  • Sharpness to Berkeley Road (Potentially, but guess work)
  • Burnley-in-Wharfedale to Weeton via Otley (potentially but guess work)
  • Brokenhurst to Ringwood (Potentially but guess work)

Accelerating Existing Proposals: Separate Bidding process to the other two

  1. Skipton to Colne
  2. Corsham
  3. Wilton Parkway
  4. Northumberland Park to Ashington
  5. Wisbech to March
  6. Skelmersdale Spur
New Stations Fund: Separate bidding process to the other two
  1. Edingswell
  2. Marsh Barton

Updated: Separated into separate section so there are more bids as the 60 schemes were all ideas funds so?
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I think you've missed out the Ironbridge to Madeley jnt line which is basically intact and is supported by the Telford and Wrekin MPs and more importantly has third party funding from the developers of the old Ironbridge Power Station site.
 
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The five Shropshire MPs have written to the transport minister. Have any put an application in?
 
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Jorge Da Silva said:
Ideas Fund: Bids for March submitted and due to be announced in May: Second bidding in June and third in November 2020
  1. Leicester-Burton
  2. Stockport to Stalybridge
  3. Stocksbridge-Sheffield
  4. Sheffield to Chesterfield via Barrow Hill
  5. Doncaster to Knottingley
  6. Doncaster to Shireoaks
  7. Stafford to Wellington
  8. Buxton to Matlock
  9. Gobowen to Oswestry
  10. Rhyl to Corwen
  11. Tavistock to Bere Alston
  12. Tavistock to Okehampton
  13. Brent to Kingsbridge
  14. Heathfield to Newton Abbot
  15. Stratford to Honeybourne
  16. Lostwithiel to Fowey
  17. Part of Northampton to Bedford
  18. Uckfield to Lewes
  19. Bourne End to High Wycombe
  20. Sandall and Agbrigg to Barnsley
  21. York to Beverley
  22. Penrith to Keswick
  23. Silloth to Carlisle
  24. Afon-wen to Bangor
  25. Totton to Fawley
  26. Newport to Smallbrook Junction
  27. Shanklin to Ventor
  28. Burscough Curves
  29. Grazebrook to Baguely
  30. Shirebrook to Ollerton
  31. Poulton-le-Fylde to Fleetwood (not included in the 60)
  32. Harrogate to Northallerton via Ripon
  33. Station: Cullompton
  34. Station: Wellington
  35. Station: Methley
  36. Station: Little Deeping
  37. Station: Donnington Road
  38. Station: Standish
  39. Station: Cullompton
  40. Wortley Curve
  41. Devizes Parkway
Potential Bids for Ideas Fund?

  • Gainsborough Central to Cleethorpes (Potentially, but guess work)
  • Northampton to Market Harborough
  • Sharpness to Berkeley Road (Potentially, but guess work)
  • Burnley-in-Wharfedale to Weeton via Otley (potentially but guess work)
  • Brokenhurst to Ringwood (Potentially but guess work)

Accelerating Existing Proposals: Separate Bidding process to the other two

  1. Skipton to Colne
  2. Corsham
  3. Wilton Parkway
  4. Northumberland Park to Ashington
  5. Wisbech to March
  6. Skelmersdale Spur
New Stations Fund: Separate bidding process to the other two
  1. Edingswell
  2. Marsh Barton

Updated: Separated into separate section so there are more bids as the 60 schemes were all ideas funds so?
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I think that the Ironbridge to Madeley Jnt line is on the list as it was submitted by the MPs for Telford and the Wrekin, the track is intact and more importantly there is significant third party funding from the developers of the Ironbridge Power Station site.
 
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AlanL said:
I think you've missed out the Ironbridge to Madeley jnt line which is basically intact and is supported by the Telford and Wrekin MPs and more importantly has third party funding from the developers of the old Ironbridge Power Station site.
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Didn't know it had support. I had thought it would be submitted but had no confirmation I'll add it.
 
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Jorge Da Silva said:
Ideas Fund: Bids for March submitted and due to be announced in May: Second bidding in June and third in November 2020
  1. Leicester-Burton
  2. Stockport to Stalybridge
  3. Stocksbridge-Sheffield
  4. Sheffield to Chesterfield via Barrow Hill
  5. Doncaster to Knottingley
  6. Doncaster to Shireoaks
  7. Stafford to Wellington
  8. Buxton to Matlock
  9. Gobowen to Oswestry
  10. Rhyl to Corwen
  11. Tavistock to Bere Alston
  12. Tavistock to Okehampton
  13. Brent to Kingsbridge
  14. Heathfield to Newton Abbot
  15. Stratford to Honeybourne
  16. Lostwithiel to Fowey
  17. Part of Northampton to Bedford
  18. Uckfield to Lewes
  19. Bourne End to High Wycombe
  20. Sandall and Agbrigg to Barnsley
  21. York to Beverley
  22. Penrith to Keswick
  23. Silloth to Carlisle
  24. Afon-wen to Bangor
  25. Totton to Fawley
  26. Newport to Smallbrook Junction
  27. Shanklin to Ventor
  28. Burscough Curves
  29. Grazebrook to Baguely
  30. Shirebrook to Ollerton
  31. Poulton-le-Fylde to Fleetwood (not included in the 60)
  32. Harrogate to Northallerton via Ripon
  33. Station: Cullompton
  34. Station: Wellington
  35. Station: Methley
  36. Station: Little Deeping
  37. Station: Donnington Road
  38. Station: Standish
  39. Station: Cullompton
  40. Wortley Curve
  41. Devizes Parkway
  42. Ironbridge branch line
Potential Bids for Ideas Fund?

  • Gainsborough Central to Cleethorpes (Potentially, but guess work)
  • Northampton to Market Harborough
  • Sharpness to Berkeley Road (Potentially, but guess work)
  • Burnley-in-Wharfedale to Weeton via Otley (potentially but guess work)
  • Brokenhurst to Ringwood (Potentially but guess work)

Accelerating Existing Proposals: Separate Bidding process to the other two

  1. Skipton to Colne
  2. Corsham
  3. Wilton Parkway
  4. Northumberland Park to Ashington
  5. Wisbech to March
  6. Skelmersdale Spur
New Stations Fund: Separate bidding process to the other two
  1. Edingswell
  2. Marsh Barton

Updated: Separated into separate section so there are more bids as the 60 schemes were all ideas funds so?
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Is this your guess list or the list? If the latter could you provide a link to the document please?
 
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Jorge Da Silva said:
what could be the sixty schemes? Awards of up to £50,000 towards things like Feasibility studies

The ones I know of that have been submitted or were going to be submitted:

Restore Your Railway Fund Bids/Potential Bids:
  1. Leicester-Burton
  2. Stockport to Stalybridge
  3. Stocksbridge-Sheffield
  4. Sheffield to Chesterfield via Barrow Hill
  5. Doncaster to Knottingley
  6. Doncaster to Shireoaks
  7. Stafford to Wellington
  8. Buxton to Matlock
  9. Gobowen to Oswestry
  10. Rhyl to Corwen
  11. Tavistock to Bere Alston
  12. Tavistock to Okehampton
  13. Brent to Kingsbridge
  14. Heathfield to Newton Abbot
  15. Stratford to Honeybourne
  16. Lostwithiel to Fowey
  17. Northampton to Market Harborough
  18. Northampton to Bedford
  19. Wisbech to March
  20. Uckfield to Lewes
  21. Bourne End to High Wycombe
  22. Sandall and Agbrigg to Barnsley
  23. Skipton to Colne
  24. York to Beverley
  25. Penrith to Keswick
  26. Silloth to Carlisle
  27. Skelmersdale Spur
  28. Afon-wen to Bangor
  29. Totton to Fawley
  30. Newport to Smallbrook Junction
  31. Shanklin to Ventor
  32. Burscough Curves
  33. Grazebrook to Baguely
  34. Shirebrook to Ollerton
  35. Poulton-le-Fylde to Fleetwood (not included in the 60)
  36. Northumberland Park to Ashington (not included in the 60)
  37. Harrogate to Northallerton via Ripon
  38. Gainsborough Central to Cleethorpes (Potentially, but guess work)
  39. Sharpness to Berkeley Road (Potentially, but guess work)
  40. Burnley-in-Wharfedale to Weeton via Otley (potentially but guess work)
  41. Brokenhurst to Ringwood (Potentially but guess work)
  42. Station: Cullompton
  43. Station: Wellington
  44. Station: Methley
  45. Station: Little Deeping
  46. Station: Donnington Road
  47. Station: Standish
  48. Station: Millhouses and Ecclesall
  49. Wortley Curve
50-60 ?

New Stations Fund Bids known so far:
  1. Marsh Barton
  2. Edingswell
  3. Wilton Parkway
I have thought about maybe Gainsborough to Cleethorpes was submitted?
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That’s an impressive list - thanks for posting
 
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Ideas Fund: Bids for March submitted (or may have been submitted) and due to be announced in May: Second bidding in June and third in November 2020
  1. Leicester-Burton
  2. Stockport to Stalybridge
  3. Stocksbridge-Sheffield
  4. Sheffield to Chesterfield via Barrow Hill
  5. Doncaster to Knottingley
  6. Doncaster to Shireoaks
  7. Stafford to Wellington
  8. Buxton to Matlock
  9. Gobowen to Oswestry
  10. Rhyl to Corwen
  11. Tavistock to Bere Alston
  12. Tavistock to Okehampton
  13. Brent to Kingsbridge
  14. Heathfield to Newton Abbot
  15. Stratford to Honeybourne
  16. Lostwithiel to Fowey
  17. Part of Northampton to Bedford
  18. Uckfield to Lewes and Eridge to Tunbridge Wells (as part of the BML2 bid)
  19. Bourne End to High Wycombe
  20. Sandall and Agbrigg to Barnsley
  21. York to Beverley
  22. Penrith to Keswick
  23. Silloth to Carlisle
  24. Afon-wen to Bangor
  25. Totton to Fawley
  26. Newport to Smallbrook Junction
  27. Shanklin to Ventor
  28. Burscough Curves
  29. Grazebrook to Baguely
  30. Shirebrook to Ollerton
  31. Poulton-le-Fylde to Fleetwood (not included in the 60)
  32. Station: Cullompton
  33. Station: Wellington
  34. Station: Methley
  35. Station: Little Deeping
  36. Station: Donnington Road
  37. Station: Standish
  38. Wortley Curve
  39. Devizes Parkway
  40. Ironbridge branch line
  41. Rossendale to Manchester
  42. Barnstaple to Braunston
  43. Melksham Single Track Capacity Enhancement
  44. Westbury 4th Platform
Potential Bids for Ideas Fund?

  • Gainsborough Central to Cleethorpes (Potentially, but guess work)
  • Northampton to Market Harborough
  • Sharpness to Berkeley Road (Potentially, but guess work)
  • Burley-in-Wharfedale to Weeton via Otley (potentially but guess work)
  • Brokenhurst to Ringwood (Potentially but guess work)
  • Millhouses and Heeley stations (shown interest, but no confirmation of bidding?)

Accelerating Existing Proposals: Separate Bidding process to the other two

  1. Skipton to Colne
  2. Corsham
  3. Wilton Parkway
  4. Northumberland Park to Ashington
  5. Wisbech to March
  6. Skelmersdale Spur
New Stations Fund Confirmed Bids: Separate bidding process to the other two
  1. Edingswell
  2. Marsh Barton
  3. Haxby

New Updated based on sources from various areas including here and various news articles: https://trundleage.co.uk/funding-schemes/restoring-your-railway-fund/
 
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D365 said:
Millhouses (and Heeley) should be a quick win, in theory, but it would need full reinstatement of the second pair of tracks.
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I think (don't quote me on this) there are already plans to reinstate the third track on that line as part of HS2, at least someone said there was in this forum.

Millhouses is a tricky one as the line is known for problems with congestion which should be helped with double tracking around Dore.
 
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Jorge Da Silva said:
Ideas Fund: Bids for March submitted (or may have been submitted) and due to be announced in May: Second bidding in June and third in November 2020

New Updated based on sources from various areas including here and various news articles: https://trundleage.co.uk/funding-schemes/restoring-your-railway-fund/
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Excellent, many thanks indeed for producing this list... I see that Skipton-Colne has moved forward a stage according to today's reports, and Now in the DfT's 'develop phase.
 
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D365 said:
Millhouses (and Heeley) should be a quick win, in theory, but it would need full reinstatement of the second pair of tracks.
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A feasibility study was completed for SYPTE in 1997 but it would have been much better done before 1992 when the site of the old steam era sheds and two tracks were sold off for the Tesco superstore. HS2 is suggesting a 3rd track could squeeze through the remaining gap betwen Tesco and Sainsbury's on the opposite side of the tracks.

Ideally Tesco should be encouraged to update their store by building a new one on stilts together with park and ride and new station on the reinstated railway tracks beneath. It wouldn't happen quickly, about 10 years at warp rail speed, by which time the Tesco store would be about 35 years old, ripe for redeveloping.
 
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A feasibility study was completed for SYPTE in 1997 but it would have been much better done before 1992 when the site of the old steam era sheds and two tracks were sold off for the Tesco superstore. HS2 is suggesting a 3rd track could squeeze through the remaining gap betwen Tesco and Sainsbury's on the opposite side of the tracks.

Ideally Tesco should be encouraged to update their store by building a new one on stilts together with park and ride and new station on the reinstated railway tracks beneath. It wouldn't happen quickly, about 10 years at warp rail speed, by which time the Tesco store would be about 35 years old, ripe for redeveloping.
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I really like the idea of 4 tracking the line as it would increase capacity south of Sheffield but it would be a challenge. It would allow reinstatement of Heeley and Millhouses.
 
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I really like the idea of 4 tracking the line as it would increase capacity south of Sheffield but it would be a challenge. It would allow reinstatement of Heeley and Millhouses.
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It isn't just the Tesco store. Various incursions have been made into the former 4 track bed. Slewed tracks for starters but then associated signalling and track access arrangements. Odd bits here and there appear to have been sold off. For two new tracks across London Road at Heeley it would require two new sets of girders. I think if they were proposed Network Rail would probably have to raise the rail level for them and quite possibly the current two as well to allow the road more clearance below. It floods very easily at present.
 
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It would be good to see this list divided between line reopenings, reopened/new stations, and timetable/service enhancements.
 
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Jorge Da Silva said:
Ideas Fund: Bids for March submitted (or may have been submitted) and due to be announced in May: Second bidding in June and third in November 2020
  1. Leicester-Burton
  2. Stockport to Stalybridge
  3. Stocksbridge-Sheffield
  4. Sheffield to Chesterfield via Barrow Hill
  5. Doncaster to Knottingley
  6. Doncaster to Shireoaks
  7. Stafford to Wellington
  8. Buxton to Matlock
  9. Gobowen to Oswestry
  10. Rhyl to Corwen
  11. Tavistock to Bere Alston
  12. Tavistock to Okehampton
  13. Brent to Kingsbridge
  14. Heathfield to Newton Abbot
  15. Stratford to Honeybourne
  16. Lostwithiel to Fowey
  17. Part of Northampton to Bedford
  18. Uckfield to Lewes and Eridge to Tunbridge Wells (as part of the BML2 bid)
  19. Bourne End to High Wycombe
  20. Sandall and Agbrigg to Barnsley
  21. York to Beverley
  22. Penrith to Keswick
  23. Silloth to Carlisle
  24. Afon-wen to Bangor
  25. Totton to Fawley
  26. Newport to Smallbrook Junction
  27. Shanklin to Ventor
  28. Burscough Curves
  29. Grazebrook to Baguely
  30. Shirebrook to Ollerton
  31. Poulton-le-Fylde to Fleetwood (not included in the 60)
  32. Harrogate to Northallerton via Ripon
  33. Station: Cullompton
  34. Station: Wellington
  35. Station: Methley
  36. Station: Little Deeping
  37. Station: Donnington Road
  38. Station: Standish
  39. Wortley Curve
  40. Devizes Parkway
  41. Ironbridge branch line
  42. Rossendale to Manchester
  43. Barnstaple to Braunston
  44. Melksham Single Track Capacity Enhancement
  45. Westbury 4th Platform
Potential Bids for Ideas Fund?

  • Gainsborough Central to Cleethorpes (Potentially, but guess work)
  • Northampton to Market Harborough
  • Sharpness to Berkeley Road (Potentially, but guess work)
  • Burley-in-Wharfedale to Weeton via Otley (potentially but guess work)
  • Brokenhurst to Ringwood (Potentially but guess work)
  • Millhouses and Heeley stations (shown interest, but no confirmation of bidding?)

Accelerating Existing Proposals: Separate Bidding process to the other two

  1. Skipton to Colne
  2. Corsham
  3. Wilton Parkway
  4. Northumberland Park to Ashington
  5. Wisbech to March
  6. Skelmersdale Spur
New Stations Fund Confirmed Bids: Separate bidding process to the other two
  1. Edingswell
  2. Marsh Barton
  3. Haxby

New Updated based on sources from various areas including here and various news articles: https://trundleage.co.uk/funding-schemes/restoring-your-railway-fund/
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I don't know where this list came from but I heard today from the DfT that Harrogate-Ripon-Northallerton is NOT registered with them in the Ideas Fund. Wishful thinking on someone's part. I suspect most on this list is wishful thinking as I cannot think that this many MPs have given their support to that many reinstated llines.
 
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I don't know where this list came from but I heard today from the DfT that Harrogate-Ripon-Northallerton is NOT registered with them in the Ideas Fund. Wishful thinking on someone's part. I suspect most on this list is wishful thinking as I cannot think that this many MPs have given their support to that many reinstated llines.
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Of all of the hopeless cases on this list, Rhyl-Corwen seems the most ridiculous. Who is on favour (other than a local councillor who's Dad took him on a footplate ride in the 60s)?
 
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Of all of the hopeless cases on this list, Rhyl-Corwen seems the most ridiculous. Who is on favour (other than a local councillor who's Dad took him on a footplate ride in the 60s)?
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Surely it can’t beat Aber - Carmarthen.
 
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I am very disappointed that the Selby-Market Weighton-Driffield line is not on the list, let alone a priority. It surely has as much merit as some of the entries?

On a more serious note, 60 schemes will give bounteous work for consultants to do feasibility studies? Might be some money left for one or two lines, most likely in or around conurbations.
 
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I think it's probably an order of magnitude more pointless, @Bald Rick - at least Aber-Carmathen connects somewhere-somewhere....
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Didn’t the line go through Ruthin, Denbigh and St Asaph? I’d argue that is rather more population, in rather less distance, than, err, Lampeter.
 
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Didn’t the line go through Ruthin, Denbigh and St Asaph? I’d argue that is rather more population, in rather less distance, than, err, Lampeter.
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Yes, but the passenger service south of Ruthin went as early as Feb 1953, only just outlasting the Mid-Suffolk! Would this be the first pre-Beeching closure reinstated to the national network?
 
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