I admit it's a sore point for me. Because I work on a freelance/consultancy basis via a limited company, I've been royally shafted over the last year, and it clouds my logic and sympathy somewhat.
This was HMRC it was standardisation of t&cs and the staff wanted it too as it allowed more flexible working.
TY. Most departments seem happy to let the discrepancies continue. I happen to know from friends that for at least some folk on residual terms Home Office has blocked any pay rises for several years.This was HMRC it was standardisation of t&cs and the staff wanted it too as it allowed more flexible working.
Members vote to accept 13% pay deal for HMRC members
Members have voted overwhelmingly to accept the HMRC pay and contract reform, which will see the majority of members receive approximately 13% consolidated increase.www.fda.org.uk
It`s HMRC (everyone favourite`s department !
Umm maybe not from McDs themselves but they would IF the National Minimum Wage increases as that is set by the Government not McDs.
Excellent post, sensible and pragmatic.
TY. I am a CS myself (Prospect member) and got screwed by being put on "modernised" T&Cs when l transferred Dept a couple of years ago. I have to say that all sounds eminently sensible. Seeing a win-win makes a nice change - I bet that HMT accepted it as it ultimately ends up being pretty much cost-neutral.It`s HMRC (everyone favourite`s department !
There was a need for reform as anyone who started working after 2005 had a far worse & restrictive contract than I did ( I joined in 1988).
They did a survey and realised that they did have enough staff who were obliged to answer the phones after 3pm and so could not provide effective customer service and I was very much in the minority with my contract.
So my Union (PCS) negotiated with management and a business case was put to the Treasury to ask if we could be offered a revised package of T&C`s and the Treasury said yes.
My revised T&C`s mean that
1) I can`t start work on Flexi before 07:45 (used to be 07:00) and if rostered to start at 07:45 or work until 17:00 I have to be there (unless I can swop with a colleague)
2) I have to work until 17:00 one night a week and work 6 Saturday`s a year (if there is a business demand)
3) I lost 1 1/2 days Privilege Leave a year ( 1 day at Christmas and 1/2 day Maundy Thursday ) these were extra holiday`s given to Civil Servants
4) I gained a 7% consolidated pay rise (paid over 2 years) and 6% in 3 non consolidated lump sums - which is a bonus to me as I am hoping to partially retire when I am 60 ( in 5 years time) and this will boost my pension !.
The PCS vote for this was 80% yes 20% no, (I voted YES) most probably because
1) Management encouraged everyone to join the Union so they could vote , because of collective bargaining https://www.tuc.org.uk/workplace-guidance/organising-and-bargaining/collective-bargaining
and those who had joined after 2005 realised that this was the best way to get rid of their old contract and get themselves a payrise !.
Do you feel that you are badly paid already ?
Re your last para, whatever you think you do not have a right to demand ever more from the taxpayer and frankly are about to get a bloody big shock if you think either that will happen or that you will get much/any support should you try action.
www.civilserviceworld.com
It is those who don’t work in an industry whose views are most relevant in this discussion. It is they who will be asked to provide tax funding for these rises, or who face price increases to meet those additional costs.
Not every key worker is receiving a pay rise, yet we have all had our own difficulties over the last year.
But where is the money going to come from to pay for these pay rises? Anyone working on the railway are lucky they still have jobs to go to, unlike many people in other industries. If the Government hadn’t bailed out the railways during the pandemic they would have gone under months ago.
The bit in bold really annoys me. It's one of the absolute horrors of modern capitalism that so many people have the gun of destitution pointed at their heads, and it's used as a threat to make people tolerate all sorts of misery, humiliation and ill-treatment at work.
There are some people who still refuse to accept the result and are complaining about the result.
o couldn’t have said it better myself.. i had guys shielding, self isolating dubiously and people being off short notice
For the unsociable hours worked I am paid fairly, I wouldn’t say badly and I wouldn’t say well
Your TU has undoubtedly done well for you. However, things are very different now. Taking action, when the economy is flatlining, the railways are hemorrhaging money and are on life support, and there is an anti-TU government with a bloody big majority, is bluntly lemming like.
Ultimately, taxpayers will be paying for the borrowing to fund it for the next several decades.
I don’t think it’s about jealousy, it’s about the rail industry’s consumers not wanting to subsidise it anymore unnecessarily, after a period of record subsidy, when many on here have admitted the job has been easier than ever.
